N&W in 1909--Bridge

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Thanks, that was very helpful. I also spent a few days bicycle riding the
"rail-trails" in the Cleveland area as well as Dayton and Xenia. I'm sorry
to get off topic, but I am amazed at how the State of Ohio has managed to
save so many abandoned rail corridors and turn them into really beautiful
biking/walking trails, with lots of old railroad artifacts around to keep
the imagination stimulated. Bully for them! My home of NC has some pretty
strict laws that revert abandoned rail corridors back to the original
property owner (or their heirs) and subsequently many old rail corridors
have been forever lost to use of the public. A lost opportunity and a real
shame, IMHO.

Thanks again for the info.

Mike Weeks
Charlotte NC

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As a part of the 1964 N&W merger/lease of the WAB, NKP, P&WV, and ACY the
Sandusky line of the PRR was sold to the N&W. This line provided the
original N&W with a link to the newly acquired railroad lines. The PRR
Sandusky Line connected to the N&W Scioto Division at Columbus, OH and went
north to Sandusky, OH, located on Lake Erie. Sandusky provided (as it had
for years) an outlet for N&W coal via lake shipping to be distributed
various points on the Great Lakes.

At Bellevue, OH the Sandusky Line intersected the east-west NKP
(Buffalo/Cleveland-Chicago/St. Louis mainline) and the former east-west W&LE
mainline (the W&LE connected to the east with the P&WV at Pittsburgh
Junction, OH which ran east to Connellsville, PA/Pittsburgh, PA and westward
to Toledo, OH where it connected with various railroads there including the
Wabash). The NKP running west from Bellevue intersected the Wabash
Detroit/Toledo-St. Louis KC mainline at Ft, Wayne, IN.

Also intersected by the Sandusky Line (south of Bellevue) at Cary, OH was
the ACY east west-line from Akron/Mogador, OH to Delphos, OH.

The N&W post merger also entered Cleveland by way of the former W&LE line
that left the W&LE east-west main just east of Brewster, OH at Harmon going
north through Canton, Mogadore (where it connected with the ACY), Kent, and
into Cleveland. The N&W also entered Cleveland from the west using trackage
rights (that existed pre-N&W merger) off of the former W&LE east-west
mainline at Wellington, OH running over the Big Four/NYC/PC line to Berea
and on into Cleveland. So 2 different entrances to Cleveland were made over
the former W&LE.

All in all the N&W reached Cleveland over the former NKP east-west mainline,
from the south over the former W&LE line from Brewster/Harmon and from the
west over W&LE trackage rights on the Big 4/NYC/PC from Wellington.


Ed Painter; from Narrows, VA originally - currently living in Russellville,
AR - and for an 8 1/2 years period (1970-78) in the Akron-Canton, Oh area.



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BTW: What was N&W's presence in Cleveland? Their route map from the 50's
shows that they ran west to Cincinnati and Columbus. Did they have trackage
rights to Cleveland or did they acquire that route thru their mergers in the
early 60's?

Mike Weeks
Charlotte


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And the new, second bridge was for the double track program and was a deck
girder bridge while the previous bridge was a through truss. Unfortunately,
in March of 1913, this new bridge was obliterated by the big flash flood of
that date. The 1913 flood was a real biggie which wiped out most of the
railroad and interurban bridges and tracks in the state of Ohio.



Gary Rolih

Cincinnati





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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
November 23, 1909



TO BRIDGE THE SCIOTO

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Plans for New Structure Completed by Norfolk and Western



Plans have now been completed by the Norfolk and Western officials for
the construction of a new bridge over the Scioto river adjacent to the
present one just west of Chillicothe. Blue prints are now in the hands of
the chief engineers of the road and the work will be begun as soon as right
of way trouble is cleared up.

The bridge will be built at an angle of about 60 degrees from the
present bridge. The abutment on this side will be extended and the first
part of the bridge will be built on it, but the remainder of the piers will
be separate, although built close together.

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Gordon Hamilton




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