"Battleships"
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This subject has been discussed before.
"Battleship" is not necessarily a railfan term.
"Battleships" were referred to in N&W Pocahontas Division timetables as
early as 1911 under the subject "FIGURES TO BE USED IN COMPUTING TONNAGE
FOR CARS OF DIFFERENT CAPACITY AND LOADING."
When loaded with coal, "Battleships" were to be computed (estimated) to have
a gross weight of 78 tons per car; when loaded with coke, at 67 tons per
car.
Louis Newton
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> 1. Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle" (NW Mailing List)
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> 3. Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle" (NW Mailing List)
> 4. Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle" (NW Mailing List)
> 5. Christiansburg (Cambria) station (NW Mailing List)
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:35:25 -0500
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> Subject: Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
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> Tony, the N&W had "battleship" gons up until about 1953; the Virginian had
> some up until the time of the merger in 1959--the N&W had them all off the
> roster within approximately 6 months. Most of them were about 43' to 50'
> long. With N&W, VGN, C&O there are roughly 15 different classes of these
> cars; we can give you a better answer if you can narrow down your request
> a
> bit.
>
> At least three different sources have given us the distinct impression
> that
> "battleship gon" is a railfan/historian term that was very rarely used by
> "real" railroaders; one exception is that it appears that the term was
> used
> by N&W men referring to the VGN cars right after the merger.
>
> Frank Bongiovanni
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM, NW Mailing List
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>> hello I would like to know how long did battleship gondolas stay on the
>> line and what were the lengths and car numbers? I have an idea if they
>> were
>> as long as a 6 axle tender I could probably make one out of a Bachmann
>> auxilary tender. thanks. tony putnam
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 11/29/09, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>* wrote:
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>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
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>> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
>> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:26 AM
>>
>> A friend of mine inquired about a photo he has in his collection that is
>> labeled as being at Hanging Rock, OH. It is of an 0-4-0 #2 named the
>> "John
>> Kyle." Anyone have any additional information on this locomotive, dates
>> of
>> operation or owner etc?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Whit
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:16:53 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Tunnel repair on the former North Carolina Branch
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> Looks like the Old Chestnut Creek Tunnel on the old North Carolina Branch,
> is getting spruced up a bit by the New River trail folks. This tunnel had
> been getting really "ratty" over the years, on the timber side of it,
> several boards where missing, and on the inside, their had been lots of
> shoring up of the big beams.
>
> http://www.lcni5.com/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?055+article+News+20091130093823055055002
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> Andy J
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> Portion of trail closed until spring
>
> By CHRISTOPHER BROOKE
>
> A three-mile section of the New River Trail State Park near Gambetta will
> remain closed for 150 days for safety work on the former rail line tunnel
> there.
>
> The closure effects the portion of the linear state park from Fries
> Junction at mile marker 39.8 to Gambetta Road at 42.3 until May 1 of next
> year, according to park officials.
>
> This work arose from the issuance in 2002 of a general obligation bond by
> the state to repair bridges and tunnels on the New River Trail, explained
> Jimmy Elliott, the park's assistant manager based at Cliffview.
>
> Specialists examined parts of the trail and found that the time had come
> for maintenance on the tunnel.
>
> "There's some wooden beams in there that has some signs of rot, I guess
> you would say, or weathering," Elliott explained.
>
> Plus, there's a wooden face on the north side of the tunnel that needs
> replacing.
>
> Workers will also scale loose rock back and install a wire mesh meant to
> catch falling pieces, he added. "We've never had a problem in that tunnel
> anyway with anything falling."
>
> But the idea is to be proactive. "We're taking care of these issues before
> they present a significant safety issue to the public."
>
> The contract, awarded to Hillsville company DLB, allows for 150 days to
> complete the work, Elliott said. Park officials purposefully scheduled
> this maintenance for the time of year when the trail has the least amount
> of users.
>
> Barricades have gone up on this portion of the trail and it has been
> turned over to the contractor to do the work.
>
> For those who want to continue using the trial, park officials suggest
> this detour: From the Gambetta Road crossing traveling south on the trail,
> take a right onto Gambetta Road. Travel approximately three miles to Iron
> Ridge Road and take a right. Go approximately three miles to Fries Road
> and take a right, then follow the signs to the Fries access, about 4.5
> miles
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:02:38 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
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> ok thanks Frank. I suppose this answered my question. I kinda figured they
> were named that because of the Atlantic Fleets?old?battleships used coal
> before they?were rebuilt to burn oil. talk to you later. tony?
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> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:35 PM
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>
>
> Tony, the N&W had "battleship" gons up until about 1953; the Virginian had
> some up until the time of the merger in 1959--the N&W had them all off the
> roster within approximately 6 months.? Most of them were about 43' to 50'
> long.? With N&W, VGN, C&O there are roughly 15 different classes of these
> cars; we can give you a better answer if you can narrow down your request
> a bit.?
> ?
> At least three different sources have given us the distinct impression
> that "battleship gon" is a railfan/historian term that was very rarely
> used by "real" railroaders; one exception is that it appears that the term
> was used by N&W men referring to the VGN cars right after the merger.?
> ?
> Frank Bongiovanni
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM, NW Mailing List
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> hello I would like to know how long did battleship gondolas stay on the
> line and what were the lengths and car numbers? I have an idea if they
> were as long as a 6 axle tender I could probably make one out of a
> Bachmann auxilary tender. thanks. tony putnam
>
> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
>
> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 2:26 AM
>
>
>
> A friend of mine inquired about a photo he has in his collection that is
> labeled as being at Hanging Rock, OH. It is of an 0-4-0 #2 named the?
> "John Kyle." Anyone have any additional information on this locomotive,
> dates of operation or owner etc?
>
> Thanks,
> Whit
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:32:07 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: 0-4-0 "John Kyle"
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> There is a siding near Hanging Rock that lead to a coal dealer. They might
> have had an 0-4-0 to move cars.
>
> Larry S.
> N&W Signal Dept.
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:26:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Christiansburg (Cambria) station
> To: Ned Wright <parkview12004 at yahoo.com>
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> Hello, Ned:
>
> Thanks for the article. I stopped by in 2007 and met Mr. Dorsett. They
> constructed an apartment within the east end of the freight room. He was
> successful in having the structure added to the National Historic Register
> even though it is on Norfolk Southern leased land.
>
> Happy holidays,
>
> Frank
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>
> A look inside Christiansburg?s Cambria depot
>
> The Dorsett family bought the train depot back in 1983, following a
> 20-year period as a storage facility for local companies 0 Ratings | 104
> By Chris Whitley | Digital Journalist
> Published: November 24, 2009
> Updated: November 25, 2009
>
> CHRISTIANSBURG - Originally this area was known as Bangs. Then sometime
> in the 1870?s it was changed to Ronald after a Civil War hero from
> Blacksburg. They they thought Ronald was not a good name for a town, and
> named it Cambria.
>
> Now a part of Christiansburg, Cambria is the home of a historic train
> depot. It was originally built in 1868, then converted from a passenger
> station to a freight station in 1906. Nearly all of the freight traffic
> for Montgomery County and Floyd County came through the depot, according
> to Megan Dorsett.
>
> Her family bought the train depot back in 1983, following a 20-year period
> as a storage facility for local companies. The Dorsetts turned the
> renovation of the depot into a labor of love.
>
> ?You do not do it for financial gain. Nobody who does historical
> preservation is making a lot of money off it,? Dorsett told me. ?For my
> parents, they bought it because my mother believed young parents should be
> able to bring their kids here and say, this is what a train station looked
> like,? Dorsett added.
>
> The building still maintains much of teh original materials from more than
> a century ago. On the wall, you?ll find grafitti left by former workers.
>
> Today, the building serves as a work space for Dorsett Publication, a toy
> store where the money raised helps buy paint for the building, and even a
> home for Megan.
>
> But perhaps its most important purpose, a Cambria Museum.
>
> ?A history of a people who live in a place. Tells the story of how a
> place developed, on a base level,? Dorsett says.
>
> Source:
> http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/new_river_valley/article/a_look_inside_christiansburg_cambria_depot/64515/
>
> As of: December 1, 2009
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