pre electric operations

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Gary,
I don't know.  All I have are the old maps from the N&W RR Annual Reports showing  roughly where the set out/pick up sidings left/entered the main.  The only operation I am somewhat familiar with is Crumpler, and that one is probably a little unusual being located at the head of the "holler".  If I 'member correctly, the empties were pushed past the tipple and stored until needed.  When loading, a cut would have its brakes released (controlled) and travel by gravity under the tipple chutes at the required speed.  When full, the cut would be stored on a siding below the tipple for pick up by the next run.  Since there was no turn table or "Y" on the Northfork Branch, I assume that they backed the empties up and pulled the loads down with the loco running forward, but that's just supposition since I was too young to see steam working.  I'm hoping someone more versed in the operational history of the Pokey can shed some light on how/why things worked.
Jim
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  Jim:  Which way are the switches pointed on the spurs and tipple tracks for set outs? Eastward or westward?

   

  Gary Rolih

  Cincinnati

   

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  I have been reading the electrification articles in the latest Arrow and have some questions about pre-electrification steam operations that I'm hoping some of you may clear up for me.  First, on page 22, it states that empty deliveries to the mines would be handles out of Bluefield by two Mallets.  "For obvious operating reasons these engines were necessarily run backwards on the westbound movement.  The second engine was handled at the head end of the train for the purpose of permitting the better handling of the air brake down the 2% grade."  

  Well, like a lot of things in life, it aint "obvious" to me.  The picture this paints in my mind is of one engine on the West (head?) end of the string of hoppers running tender first with another on the East end, also running tender first.  Is this accurate?  If so, why was this backward running advantageous?  As to the better handling of the air, was this merely due to the fact that the line was being controlled from both ends of the train?

  Next, the statement is made "At the first point where the delivery of empties was to be made, the second engine would be set around on the rear and the delivery of empty cars into all mine operating tracks would be made from this end of the train."

  What does "set around on the rear" mean?  Is the "rear" still the East end of the train?  If so, does this put both engines on the East end now?  Did the mines have separate delivery and pick-up tracks that were polarized?  For example, did they always push empties into the delivery tracks from railroad East and pull loaded cuts out onto the main heading railroad west? 

   

  Thanks in advance for any help,

  Jim Cochran

  dcochran116 at roadrunner.com 



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