NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 59, Issue 4
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Mon Aug 2 20:54:25 EDT 2010
Didn't the N&W have a sign out in the Dismal Swamp somewhere saying
"Slow Down to 90"?
> I was coming West on US 460 one day and the Pocahantas passed me. I
> tried to catch up, got up to 80 MPH and it was still pulling away!!
> Walter Gay
> Grumpy ex-car knocker
> On Aug 2, 2010, at 10:22 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> From Norfolk to Cincinnati the Powhatan Arrow averaged a little over
>> 44 miles an hour, including stops. In Virginia, the top speeds were
>> between Suffolk and Petersburg, where the average for the Arrow was
>> over 60 miles per hour (maybe 65, I don't remember for sure).
>> Anyway, nowhere else did N&W have a scheduled run abode 60 station
>> to station. Top speeds, of course, were higher. Jim Nichols
>> I heard today on a radio news program that 90mph trains have
>> preliminary approval for some time in the future in Virginia! In
>> the heyday of N&W steam operations, what were the average speeds of
>> the Norfolk-Cincinnati trains and those on the Shenandoah Division.
>> Where and what were the top speeds?
> Per the May 1959 Trains (picked at random but far enough back to be steam):
> Norfolk & Western 25 Powhatan Arrow Suffolk Petersburg
> 58.9 mi 53 min 66.7 mph
> 26 Powhatan Arrow Petersburg
> Suffolk 58.9 mi 54 min 65.4 mph
> As Harry says, the times were start to stop. The criteria for inclusion
> was at least 65 mph, and N&W had, by then, the only listing under Steam
> Dave Phelps
> I heard today on a radio news program that 90mph trains have preliminary
> approval for some time in the future in Virginia! In the heyday of N&W
> steam operations, what were the average speeds of the Norfolk-Cincinnati
> trains and those on the Shenandoah Division. Where and what were the top
> Bernie Hylton
> For many years, TRAINS published a list of the USA's fastest
> passenger trains. N&W's entry was always No. 25 (The Powhatan
> Arrow) between Suffolk and Petersburg -- by recollection, it
> averaged 62 MPH. But bear in mind this was the scheduled speed.
> The maximum authorized speed, 79 mph, had been established by
> the ICC. N&W attempted to have ICC increase the maximum speed,
> but the ICC would not concede. Remember that a train cannot
> pass a station ahead of the scheduled time. So if a train was
> on schedule, there was no need to "make up time". But if a train
> was late, the Poe to Kilby stretch was a good place to do it. In
> many instances, the Class J's went over 100 MPH, though N&W was
> reluctant to admit it. Harry Bundy
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