Shenandoah Division Steam Locomotives

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The Arrow, Vol. 27, No. 2 (April-May-June 2011), on page 27 contains a list 
of N&W steam locomotives equipped with continuous inductive cab signals as 
of May 19, 1953.  Any of the engines listed could have operated on the north 
end of the division, as follows:

K-1 - 114, 115

K-2a - 127 thru 131

M-2 - 1119, 1139, 1143, 1148

M-2c - 1155

Y-3 - 2010, 2012, 2017

Y-3a - 2075

Y-4 - 2080 thru 2085

Y-6 - 2120 thru 2154

Y-6a - 2155 thru 2170

Y-6b - 2171 thru  2180

Z-1b - 1443, 1445, 1447, 1448, 1460, 1462

Total - 89 engines

 Louis Newton

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>   1. Re: Shenandoah Division Steam Locomotives (NW Mailing List)

>   2. RE: World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power

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> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:21:33 -0400

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> Subject: Re: Shenandoah Division Steam Locomotives

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> That was one of the points I was about to make. Also, the 4-4-2's were 

> assigned to the Norfolk-Richmond "Cannonball" and would have needed ATC 

> equipment to run on the ACL to and from Richmond.

> Lois J.Ponton

> N&W steam historian

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> Subject: Re: Shenandoah Division Steam Locomotives

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> On 10/23/2013 3:54 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

> Lois:? No it is NOT 606 the 4-8-4, but 606 the 4-4-2 Atlantic.? The 

> addition of the ATC rig to the 606 was written up in one of the 1930's 

> employee magazines- I don't remember which issue.

>

> Gary Rolih

> Are you sure about that Gary? According to Prince, 606 the 4-4-2 left the 

> roster in 1933, which is years before 2180 (just above it on the list) was 

> even built.

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> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:45:05 -0400

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> Subject: RE: World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power

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> Yes of course they were.  Pardon my stone fingers.  Dave, you were long 

> gone by the time I arrived there from the USAEOCR in Ft. Belvoir having 

> been branch transferred to TC and the 714th after completing TOAC.  Myself 

> and fellow graduate of 22H69 in August '69 Chuck Engleberger, were 

> assigned to HHC and Charlie respectively.  Nice to spend two years in the 

> States - he and I both went to RVN.  The failure was in the winter of 70, 

> February if I remember right.

> And attached for your appreciation is #607 coming over the trestle with 

> the James River in the background (photo by SP4 Lawrence Rundle, 27 Jan 

> 70) with the "kiddie train" in tow (you remember those, right?).  The TC 

> OCR was closed by the time I got there.....

> I have the builder's plate from one of the diesels but the bells and 

> plates from the steamers disappeared pretty quickly.

>

> Ed Svitil

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> Norfolk & Western Railway

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> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:13:35 -0400

> Subject: Re: World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power 

> Production

> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org

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> The 714th's steamers were 2-8-0s of WWII vintage.  I had TC OCS there

> '66-'67 then was stationed there for my two years active duty '67-'69.  I

> don't remember the steam plant failure so I assume it was after I was 

> "promoted

> to civilian" in May of '69.

>

> Dave Phelps

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> In a message dated 10/23/2013 3:56:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

> I can

>  tell you that while at Ft  Eustis from 69-70 we had a steam plant failure

>  and one of the 714 TBROSDE 0-8-0s was placed into service.   Only

>  temporary but the engine had to be idled due to build up in the firebox.

>   Chocks were welded to the rails and the steam lines were hoses, not

>  pipes. I will forward this question to one of my former LTs in C

>  Company.

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> Subject: World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power

>  Production

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>  Hello All,

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>  I have a steam locomotive history question that I hope one

>  or more of you can answer for a World War II model railroading project I 

> am

>  engaged in. In addition, I am generally interested in this question from 

> a

>  history of technology standpoint. There were a number of N&W locomotives

>  used during the war as stationary steam units for industrial power use 

> when

>  plant construction schedules and war needs overlapped. In a number of 

> cases

>  large articulated units were used to bring plants online before onsite 

> power

>  plants were finished because of wartime expediency. Mason Cooper mentions 

> this

>  in his book on the Shenandoah Division and has a few photos. My question, 

> from

>  a modeling standpoint, is how were such locomotives secured to the track 

> for

>  long periods? Were wheel sets chocked or the united attached to the 

> ground in

>  some manner? The last time I was down at the archives I meant to search 

> for

>  photographs but forgot and may try later in the year.

>

>  I am building either a chemical or pharmaceutical plant and

>  plan to have one locomotive in the foreground providing steam through a

>  pipeline system although I have been wondering about how the locomotive 

> was

>  secured. Any thoughts or anyone with previous experience with the matter 

> would

>  be greatly appreciated.

>

>  Best,

>

>  Gerard

>

>  Gerard J. Fitzgerald

>  Charlottesville, Virginia

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