VMT's Class J Trademark

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Fri May 29 16:58:21 EDT 2015


It would appear to me that if anyone has the right to copyright the J, it is NS, not VMT. Since I assume they have not exercised that right, it may be lost to VMT, at least for the 611. But I don't think VMT can extend that copyright to 600-604, as there were design differences in the running gear and the tender.
Jim Nichols 


     On Friday, May 29, 2015 3:28 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
   

 I'm sure NS is watching.....and probably not too happy.....steam program....what steam program......
Jim BrewerGlenwood MD
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Subject: Re: VMT's Class J Trademark

"I personally find these claims disturbing and legally dubious."
"...claiming total control over everything that has to do with the 611 and the J class is a huge overreach. "

I do to. Kind of like Mike Wolf all over again. What would it take to dispute the VMT's claims?

Jimmy Lisle


On 5/29/2015 12:29 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

I personally find these claims disturbing and legally dubious.  Based on these assertions, the Society would need the VMT's permission to publish any article in the Arrow or any book that had anything to do with the J class engines.  Futhermore, a photographer who photographed the 611 or any other J on the mainline from public property would need the VMT's permission to publish his own photographs, which by law he automatically owns the copyright to.  Even a history book on the N&W or fictional novel that included the Js would need permission.  

Protecting their own logo and even the FireUp611! name is one thing, but claiming total control over everything that has to do with the 611 and the J class is a huge overreach.  It generates negative publicity, upsets a key group of supporters, and will undoubtedly result in costly legal fees to defend this trademark claim.  If a small railroad calendar publisher can take down mighty Union Pacific over trademark claims, then the VMT would be an easy target.

Marty Flick


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