NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 143, Issue 3

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There is a section foremans house, I believe that is what it is, still standing on the Cincinnati district at Perintown, ohio MP 19. It is in  private hands now, but has had very little modifications done to it. There is a brick walkway from the tracks up the embankment. The woodwork around the top is very ornate. I do not know how welcoming the owners are to visitors, but you can see it clearly from Round Bottom Road.
Jeff Wood
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 I don't know about a "station master's" house, but I do
 remember that the Roadmaster of the Pocahontas Division
 lived in a standard company house in Bluefield in the
 1950's. It? was a frame house, painted in the standard cream
 and brown. The reason I know this is that his son was a
 personal friend when I was in high school. BTW: his father,
 the Roadmaster gave me a job on the section gang in the
 summer of 1953.
 Jim Nichols 
 
     On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:48 AM, NW
 Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
 wrote:
  
 
  Alan
 I have to question exactly what structure you are speaking
 of. To the best of my knowledge, the N&W never had a
 "Station master's house" anywhere on the railroad, I've
 never seen the first mention of such in any documentation.
 The closest thing to that existing, to my limited knowledge,
 is a house in Salem, that was (and still is) located just to
 the east of the original N&W/AM&O depot that stood
 at the Union Street Crossing. The original purpose of the
 building, short of being a house, is unknown, but it was on
 the railroad property maps for many years and finally sold
 or given to the family living there now. It easily dates to
 the 1880-90s. I only suspect that it might have been some
 form of home for an official like an agent. However,
 interestingly enough, it does NOT show in the 1919 building
 lists, but is shown on valuation maps that date many years
 afterward.
 Generally speaking, to accommodate a station agent in remote
 territory on the N&W, they constructed a two story depot
 with agent (and family) quarters on the second floor. Those
 that come to mind in Virginia are Pepper, Waiteville and
 Paint Bank as well as a number in West Virginia, including
 War, Panther, Cooper, Maybeury and more that I cannot recall
 at the moment.?
 There was, however, a fairly common structure called a
 "standard house for section foremen" that were built to
 standard plans No. L-32, sheets 1-4. The first variation on
 these houses was, I assume, a simple one story structure. I
 am also assuming they were changed to a two story version
 with the revised plans issued in 1937, which is what I have
 on hand.
 The 1919 building list shows a one story section foreman
 house at Island Ford measuring 31 x 42.5 feet as structure
 H-1182-A with a tin roof at MP 118. Just a bit further on
 down the road, another one story frame section foreman's
 house, measuring 31 x 37 was at Port Republic, MP
 127.Further south, at MP 147 stood a two story frame section
 foreman's house, measuring 32.4 x 37.2 at Lyndhurst. At MP
 153, a 16 x 32 section foreman's house.
 Anyway, that gives you an idea of the variety of structures
 and their commonality.
 Now, to you actual question, how many exist today? To the
 best of my knowledge, there is no definitive list of such.
 It may be harder to recognize them today, as many have been
 modified with siding, or new windows, etc. etc. I can say
 with fair authority (having not been to a few of these
 places that recently), there is one in Salem right next to
 the track that has the distinctive porch trim in place, but
 has been added on to. There is one at Vicker that has been
 resided, there is one at Dublin, Elliston and Richlands. I
 am certain there are more.?
 Personally, I'd love to see a section foreman's house
 preserved as such, with no modifications, but once they were
 sold off to private owners, modifications were and are still
 common.
 BestKen Miller
 On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:55 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
 
  
  My name is Alan Mende, and in 1992 I wrote a two-part
 article in Railroad Model Craftsman on the station master's
 house at Island Ford, VA.? The house is on the property of
 the Coors Brewing Company in Elkton, VA, and I have been led
 to believe that the company plans to demolish the building.?
 At least one individual in the company believes this is a
 mistake and is trying to generate interest in its
 preservation.? Can you tell me how many other station master
 houses might still remain, especially in their original
 location?  
   Kindest regards, 
   Alan Mende 
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 The railroad museum in St. Paul, Virginia, occupies a two
 story building that according to the museum originally
 served as the office of the N&W's superintendent and a
 dormitory for railroad workers and later as the home of the
 section foreman and his family.
 
 
 Paul Mandelkern
 Winter Park, FL
 
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 Subject: Re: N&W station master houses still standing
 
 Alan
 
 I have to question exactly what structure you are speaking
 of. To the best of my knowledge, the N&W never had a
 "Station master's house" anywhere on the railroad, I've
 never seen the first mention of such in any documentation.
 The closest thing to that existing, to my limited knowledge,
 is a house in Salem, that was (and still is) located just to
 the east of the original N&W/AM&O depot that stood
 at the Union Street Crossing. The original purpose of the
 building, short of being a house, is unknown, but it was on
 the railroad property maps for many years and finally sold
 or given to the family living there now. It easily dates to
 the 1880-90s. I only suspect that it might have been some
 form of home for an official like an agent. However,
 interestingly enough, it does NOT show in the 1919 building
 lists, but is shown on valuation maps that date many years
 afterward.
 
 Generally speaking, to accommodate a station agent in remote
 territory on the N&W, they constructed a two story depot
 with agent (and family) quarters on the second floor. Those
 that come to mind in Virginia are Pepper, Waiteville and
 Paint Bank as well as a number in West Virginia, including
 War, Panther, Cooper, Maybeury and more that I cannot recall
 at the moment.
 
 There was, however, a fairly common structure called a
 "standard house for section foremen" that were built to
 standard plans No. L-32, sheets 1-4. The first variation on
 these houses was, I assume, a simple one story structure. I
 am also assuming they were changed to a two story version
 with the revised plans issued in 1937, which is what I have
 on hand.
 
 The 1919 building list shows a one story section foreman
 house at Island Ford measuring 31 x 42.5 feet as structure
 H-1182-A with a tin roof at MP 118. Just a bit further on
 down the road, another one story frame section foreman's
 house, measuring 31 x 37 was at Port Republic, MP 127.
 Further south, at MP 147 stood a two story frame section
 foreman's house, measuring 32.4 x 37.2 at Lyndhurst. At MP
 153, a 16 x 32 section foreman's house.
 
 Anyway, that gives you an idea of the variety of structures
 and their commonality.
 
 Now, to you actual question, how many exist today? To the
 best of my knowledge, there is no definitive list of such.
 It may be harder to recognize them today, as many have been
 modified with siding, or new windows, etc. etc. I can say
 with fair authority (having not been to a few of these
 places that recently), there is one in Salem right next to
 the track that has the distinctive porch trim in place, but
 has been added on to. There is one at Vicker that has been
 resided, there is one at Dublin, Elliston and Richlands. I
 am certain there are more.
 
 Personally, I'd love to see a section foreman's house
 preserved as such, with no modifications, but once they were
 sold off to private owners, modifications were and are still
 common.
 
 Best
 Ken Miller
 
 On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:55 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
 
 
 My name is Alan Mende, and in 1992 I wrote a two-part
 article in Railroad Model Craftsman on the station master's
 house at Island Ford, VA.  The house is on the property
 of the Coors Brewing Company in Elkton, VA, and I have been
 led to believe that the company plans to demolish the
 building.  At least one individual in the company
 believes this is a mistake and is trying to generate
 interest in its preservation.  Can you tell me how many
 other station master houses might still remain, especially
 in their original location?
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 Alan Mende
 
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