Last steam operation date for EACH major class

Wed May 6 09:10:34 EDT 2020

Y6b 2190 not 2191

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> On May 5, 2020, at 2:48 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> Bob
> 
> Still cannot answer the questions below, as far as I know, a lot of that was never truly recorded, at least not that survived.
> 
> Gordon as a four page memo of steam dispatchments from various terminals by month, but it does not have specific numbers, and exactly how is a dispatchment determined, is a yard engine dispatched on each shift if it is the same locomotive, or did it go to the house for fire cleaning and coal and water once a day? 
> 
> Here is the result of my research on Roanoke terminal Park Street dispatchments which we have a number of the air test dates, trains, locomotives and times. I was curious as to same things, but the books only cover east/south/north movements from Park Street, not westbound. It also does not cover inbound movements.
> 
> I recorded from the books from February 1, 1959 and checked through the end of August. I came up with about 4 pages of notes, none of which were typed up.
> 
> The result was the back cover of the Arrow, 35-3.
> 
> Ken Miller
> <Arrow Back Cover 35-3.pdf>
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2020, at 11:32 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> My appreciation for the kind research by both Col Jeffries and Ron for digging up repair general information.
>> 
>> But what I would really desire to known is: when was the actual LAST date of operation of each major class of steam as they departed from our midst in the 1950s. We read all sorts of facts and figures and understandably, not all info and details have survived as it was not considered important back then, but today, a lot of those nitty-gritty details are highly desired.
>> 
>> Examples of what we do know: we know, of course, pretty much about the last J and the last operational Y6B #2191 as well as the switcher in early May 1960 and the exact dates of these events, but when and where did the last K1 and K2 operate and the date please? Same question for the A class (okay - stationary boiler work doesn't count here), E, M, M1, M2, H, and especially the Z class as very little seems to have been said about them, likely because they were retired and scrapped earlier than the others and were not as beloved.
>> 
>> So what were the last OPERATIONAL dates (as best can be determined) for each while under N&W use? I'm not quite as 'hot to trot' about the different classes of Y's but if that information is out there, I wouldn't turn away from it and think it could make for a neat tale, especially when woven into the fabric of other relevant information.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Those last such events can make for pretty interesting stories sometimes, like the tale friend Ed King gave us about the Z class that was dispatched to Bristol as a stationary boiler in an emergency. That was printed in Trains 25 years ago and is wonderful and romantic to read today, but was it the last (as an example) of a Z to operate on N&W.
>> 
>> And when was the LAST shopping in Roanoke done; period and do we know which engine?
>> 
>> Bob Cohen
>> 
>> 
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>> Note: Both Roanoke Shops and Portsmouth Shop did classified repairs until
>> 8-1957. After that date it appears that only Roanoke Shops did these
>> repairs.
>> 
>> Class Last shopping??? Remarks
>> 
>> E-2 ???? 6-1953 ??? ?? After 1951, only three were left; two lasted to
>> late 1958.
>> 
>> M-2 ???? 8-1953 ?? ??? Only 21 remained after 1953; all retired by mid-1957.
>> 
>> M ??? ? 10-1955 ??? ?? 16 remained after 1953; all retired by mid-1958.
>> 
>> Z-1b ??? 5-1956 ??? ?? Began retiring in ?56; all retired by 4-1958.
>> 
>> Y-3 ???? 2-1957 ??? ?? Began retiring in ?57; all retired by 5-1959.
>> 
>> Y-4 ???? 7-1956 ??? ?? All retired in 1958.
>> 
>> K-1 ???? 8-1957 ??? ?? 2 retired in ?57; all retired by 10-1958.
>> 
>> K-2 ???? 5-1957 ??? ?? 2 retired in ?57; 17 retired in 1958 and 3 in 7-1959.
>> 
>> S-1 ???? 3-1958 ??? ?? Began retiring 6-58; all retired by 9-1960.
>> 
>> Y-5/Y-6? 3-1958 ??? ?? Began retiring 6-58; all retired by 9-1960.
>> 
>> A ??? ?? 5-1958 ??? ?? Began retiring 6-58; all retired by 8-1959.
>> 
>> J ??? ?? 5-1958 ??? ?? Began retiring 10-58; all retired by 10-1959.
>> 
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>> 
>> From: Bob Cohen
>> To: nw-mailing-list-owner at nwhs.org
>> 
>> This may have been covered before but now with so much time available I'll
>> inquire, just in case it has not been published or shared.
>> 
>> When were the LAST of each of the various major classes of locomotives
>> SHOPPED at Roanoke? I am referring to A's, E's, K's, M's, Z's and even J's
>> even though I suspect that last class of 14 has been published since it has
>> been in the public eye so often. I'm not including the G's and W's since
>> those were so few and often departed for the boneyard, as well as the S
>> class switchers, which largely came on board late in the game.
>> 
>> Is there any record of when the shops ceased doing the class repairs?
>> 
>> Idle minds make for the devil's workshop here.
>> 
>> Bob Cohen
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