Virginian Coal Cars

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Fri Aug 7 14:08:48 EDT 2020


Hi all,In the mid 50's well before the merger I saw groups of loaded Virginian hoppers, including an occasional group of 100 ton gons, in westbound trains going through Circleville. They rolled very noisily compared to the N&W cars. Might they have been Lake Erie bound coal from a mine on the Virginian and taking the most convenient route?Ted GoodmanColumbus


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After the merger, which railroad name was on the car was irrelevant. VGN cars were just more N&W cars and there was no reason to treat them differently. After 1964, you would also see NKP and WAB hoppers but again, they were just more N&W cars operationally.

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> On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:48 AM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> It seems to me that as a boy, I saw a lot of Virginian coal cars, along with N&W coal cars, being pulled into Norfolk during the late 50s and early 60s.  Do I remember this correctly?  Did N&W also pull a lot of Virginian coal cars?
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> Jack:
> After the N&W/VGN merger hoppers from both roads  would be mixed in the same train.  Before the
> merger I'm not sure.  If VGN delivered a car to N&W at Portlock for dumping at Lamberts Point, the
> only revenue N&W would receive was a switching charge (About $17.60 in 1960 prices) and N&W would
> wind up paying VGN per diem (About $2.16 a car per day), performing switching, etc.  One possibility
> though -- if VGN interchanged the load to N&W at Roanoke, N&W would get a a percentage of the
> long-haul rate.                                                                Harry Bundy
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