N&W Locomotive models (in response to: O guage Y6b)
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Tue Dec 4 03:00:09 EST 2007
Thanks Tom,
In my opinion by far the best statement regarding all those complaints!
Building modells of size HO and 5" from sratch as long as 40 years, I have nothing but the highest respect for nice models like a Y6b by PCM and others! Nobody will be perfect, just look at photos of the same engine before and after main repairs during the years of service.
Here in old Europe gauge O is an extremly exclusive one, regarding cost and nos. of models being available. Thus customers don't care as much about cost, just want highly detailed modells, running smoothly and sound quite realistic.
Just to show an example what can be done (though not perfectly yet!) the Y6b 2172 of a friend. That engine for 5" gauge can be operated by steam, producing sound similar to the prototype(?) - no electronic help needed.
Without question, we all regret no modell will offer you all that sound, smell and guts of the prototype regardless the gauge.
Just lean back, open a book of W.Link and use your imagination!
Wulf-Dieter Heinrich
40489 Duesseldorf, Germany
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Verschickt: Mo., 3. Dez. 2007, 23:46
Thema: N&W Locomotive models (in response to: O guage Y6b)
Stephen Rineair said, “The HO Y6b that was produced was not the best seller. Why would BLI or PCM produce a Y anything else with all the complaints, [allot from our society members] mostly about the price and sound. What do you want at that price for a nonbrass loco. I noticed several of our society menbers buying the AHM/RIV model after a much improved model has been produced and severly reduced. Now they are dumping the new Y6b and still are stuck. They had to explain on their site that the sound was taken from Links recordings and downloaded and still most of you are not happy.”
I’m afraid I have to agree with Mr. Rineair here. In the weeks following the release of the PCM Y6b the vast majority of the comments on this mailing list were quite negative, picking on this-or-that detail (especially sound) that wasn’t “right”. It got so bad that I was actually embarrassed and offered an apology to PCM for the roasting they were getting here. How many of you took the trouble to go to the Lok Sound (ESU) website, download the Lok Sound V3.5 manual and read/understand/use it? Even running in DC it improved the sound and operation of the locomotive greatly to adjust the various accessible CVs, particularly the relative volumes of the sounds, the speed curve, and the top speed.
Fellow members, be careful “biting the hand that feeds you.” We can easily come across as just a bunch of grumpy old men that can never be pleased. Having run a small manufacturing business, I can tell you that when I brought a product to market and had nothing but whining and complaining from the segment of the market it was aimed at I would think long and hard about it before I did anything else for that market segment.
Tom Black
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