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I am very much interested in modeling N&W signals (however, prior to them
putting in the red lamps on the stop indications).  I am amused about the
manufacturer who would produce them except he can¹t get the dimensions, etc.
I think he needs to do his own homework and put his money where his mouth
is.  I guess I have been bombarded with so many e-mails about manufacturers
who have had information shoved down their throats about N&W stuff, and
still won¹t produce it that I am skeptical.  I also believe in the ³six-foot
rule².  If you can¹t tell the difference from six feet away, then it doesn¹t
make any difference, anyway.  PRR position light signals used a full round
surround on the main head, and then used a truncated surround on the lower
head when needed.  As far as I am concerned, that is the way the N&W did it
on anything I have observed.  Occasionally, the N&W used a completely round
surround on the lower head.  Who among us would need that many indications
unless you were modeling an exact location.  In that case, I would challenge
you to model everything else in the same detail. The N&W used a lower single
light marker on home signals, whereas the PRR used the lower marker for
³stop and proceed² block signals.  That certainly would be easy to kit-bash.
When it comes to the actual indications, that is an electrical problem, not
a hardware problem.  Incidentally, I wonder what is meant by ³cantilever².
Wherever there were signals for parallel same-direction tracks, the N&W put
a single mast with a ³T² bracket to the right of the tracks and the signal
masts where mounted on the cross member of the ³T². (The most extreme
example of this is at Roanoke where there was a ³T² type signal bridge with
three signal masts on it.) The other option was a signal bridge that had its
supports on each side of the right-of-way.  Its true that N&W¹s signal
bridges were not the typical signal bridge that you can buy ready-made with
side supports that spread out as they approach the ground.
Well, I shot my mouth off about this ­ I don¹t think we can do anything but
try to kit bash whatever is out there or try to build them from scratch
which is what I have spent many hours thinking about.  I think you could
make round surrounds that have holes for three indications, and some
truncated surrounds that have a single row of lights either vertical, 45
degree angle, or horizontal.  You could then glue in LED¹s and take their
leads and bend them so they look like surround supports.  I haven¹t actually
tried it yet ­ has anyone?

Bob Folsom
N&W 1949 in Clemson, SC


On 12/9/07 7:04 PM, "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:


> Mark Peele said:

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> I know a manufacturer that wants to release

> N&W Cantilever Signal bridges and the only thing

> preventing this is the lack of drawings, dimensions

> and photos. I'm not currently in N&W country or I'd be

> all over getting this info!

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> Mark Peele

> Catonsville, MD

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> You do?  Man, I'd love for someone to start making accurate N&W signals at

> all, much less a cantilever.  I've been trying to figure out how to kitbash

> them out of Oregon Rail Supply parts.  They have a Pennsylvania kit that will

> work for the N&W position light with some modification, but the CPL would be

> more work.  There's nobody that makes the correct arm (background, head,

> whatever you wanna call it).  You'd have to fill in the center lamp hole on

> the background, and the bottom arm, whew, that would be a lot of filling,

> drilling, and gluing to get them right depending on what type of signal you're

> modeling.

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> Just out of curiosity, how much interest is there in modeling N&W signals?

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