Research for G scale

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What are some of the differences between the in-service and excursion version of #611? - Early in her excursion career, the 611 had two dynamos mounted under the fireman's side running board.  Also, there was a red back-up light on the tender and numerous 'servicing' lights on the lower half of the engine.  These were taken off I think in the late 80's.  When she first rolled out of Birmingham, the whole headlight casing was chrome, but eventually had the outer 'diameter' ring painted black.  Check out an early excursion picture to see what I mean and compare to now.  The coal boards were added about '91 or so.  This gave about 5 more tons of coal capacity.  
 
The A originally had coal boards, thought I don't know if they were the same measurements as what is on there now.  The first year out in '87, there was a turret cover just ahead of the cab that the BLI A's have and this was not on them in the steam days.  It also came off the 1218 after the first year or so.
 
They did 'swap' water tanks sometimes.  I think the one that was originally behind the J with the tuscan stripe ended up behind NKP 587 in 1989 and was eventually given/sold/pawned off on that group before the shut down in '94.  The smooth side tank that was tuscan the last half of '94 now runs behind Milwaukee Road 261.  The last tank is at VMT with the engines.  


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Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:27 PM



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The auxiliary tender released with the old Bachmann J (and the Bachmann Plus J) was correct for the excursion aux tenders, since it was model of the aux cut down from the L&N Emma tenders. So far as I know, it is out of production, but you can pick one up now and then at a show or on ebay. Don't know where you would find drawings, since N&W did not do the conversions. (I think the Southern steam program did at least one conversion at Irondale, and one of them was probably converted by L&N as a diesel fuel transporter.)The Auxillary tender released with the Specruum J (in current production) is a very correct model of the Aux tenders which N&W used when steam was in service (pre 1960), and is thus not correct for the excursion aux tenders. The 611 and 1218 each had their own aux in excursion service, appropriately painted in each case (with slight detail differences). From photos, it appears that they were sometimes swapped.  
     Excursion 611 had some openings in the skyline casing covered which were open on the in service J's. It also had twin sealed bean headlight, rather than one bulb and reflector which J's used when in regular service.. The boards on the 1218 tender date from its in service time. I am not sure about the 611. Photos should tell you.     Jim Nichols 

From: NW Modeling List 
To: 'NW Modeling List' 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Research for G scale



My research is going well on the project for producing large scale N&W A class and J class locomotives. We are discussing what versions of the locomotives to do. So far we are have discussed the in-service and excursion versions of #611 and #1218. Can the list members please provide some insight to the following questions. Other loco numbers being considered 610, 612, 613, 1200, 1210, 1217 and 12 42.
 
What are some of the differences between the in-service and excursion version of #611?
 
What are some of the differences between the in-service and excursion version of #1218?
 
Did both 611 and 1218 use the boards on the tender coal bunker? Was this for in-service or excursion service only?
 
The Bachmann auxiliary tender that originally came out with their HO J class, is it an accurate representation of the auxiliary tender 611 used? If not are there drawings available for aux tender used in excursion service?
 
Did 1218 and 611 use the same aux tender or did they each have their own?
 
Thanks for your input.
 
Jon Kelley
norfolknwestern1218 at comcast.net
 



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