M2c / Re: Northwest Shortlines E2a

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Thanks Ed, I certainly did mean PSC was the builder of one of my M2c's. Thanks for the correction!

The pulling power took a bigger hit than typical in turns. My observation the last time I ran it was that the drivers didn't have much lateral movement, which I theorized was *part* of the issue (making it "tight" in turns). If that's the case, my only solution will be a right of way realignment!

Matt Goodman

On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:36 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

I have 3 different versions of M-2's by PSC (I think PSC was your intent when you wrote PFM - PFM never produced M-2's).  Absolutely beautiful, magnificent models.  As for pulling ability like Matt's mine are very slippery with little ability to pull. (they're dogs)  I would  attribute this to 2 factors.  1. Lack of weight on the drivers and  2. the very smooth, slick surface condition of the driver tires.  The models don't have much weight on the drivers as Kurt discussed.  I plan to add weight to the boilers (as much as possible using lead wool) assuring I locate it such that it is equally distributed to all drivers.

 

Ed Painter - Narrows, VA  living in Russellville, AR

 

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Matt,

 

The problem is probably lack of weight and it being unbalanced.  All my brass

is all from that era and I always had to add weight and balcance the loco fory

proper running.

 

Kurt S. Kramke


Jun 24, 2009 07:00:52 AM, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org wrote:

Agreed on the comparison to the Pennsy and N&W E3.

Good to hear a consensus on the running quality.  I'm not old enough to know by first hand experience, but it sounds that late '60's / early 70's brass were generally built to be runners, as opposed to display (I have a recent PFM M2c that is beautiful, but won't pull a darn thing - I need to figure out why that is).

Roger, I didn't see your note initially due to the digest subject line - but based on your stated experience, perhaps you can answer the question regarding missing pieces I posted in another reply (I've used up enough bandwidth already!)

Matt Goodman

 

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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:27:30 -0500 (CDT)
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Subject: Re: Northwest Shortlines E2a

I have owned many of these engines and have painted close to 25 of them for others. I have never found one that didn't run well. They can be noisy as the open gearbox tends to be noisy but every one I've had experience with was smooth running and well made. Toby did a good job on them. They were well detailed at the time they were introduced but some details are dated and could stand being replaced. The class lights are the worst detail as far as I'm concerned.

I personally think the E-2 class was a handsome engine and better looking than any Pennsy K4 or the N&W E-3.

Enjoy!
Roger Huber

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>It has been discussed before, the item has been canceled.  Apparently there

>were not enough orders.  I had one on order at my LHS for about forever, at

>least 2.5 years, whenever they were first announced.  If you check out there

>website, I believe the Caboose is no longer there.  The only good news is

>that it looks like in August the SD40-2 hi hood for N&W will be on the

>shelves.  Though I believe this item was originally announced in the fall of

>06.  So it took them almost three years.  Fortunately on both these items my

>LHS did not require a deposit (since I am a good customer) and he told me

>not to cancel the order.

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>I split era's.  I love the diesel era of N&W but I do run steam on occasion,

>especially at shows.  Right before the CF caboose was announced, I picked up

>a brass Division Point, N&W caboose factory painted.  But since I have two

>steam freight engines I needed another one.  So, would check ebay from time

>to time and managed to snag two wooden kits, which are now on my to-do list.

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>A.J. Gemperline

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>Charlie, I was also looking forward to these cabooses, but I've never bought into the pre-order thing.  So I guess indirectly I, and others like me, bear some responsibility. 

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>Will that change my behavior?  Probably not.  

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>I'm still a little perturbed with Broadway as on the back of the CF cancellation, they've recently gone silent on the USRA Light Pacific they'd been dangling (which was to serve as a stand in for an E2).  I hear they make good stuff, but as they keep cancelling everything I want, I may never know!

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>In the meantime, grab an AMB CF kit - not a built-up, but not hard either. And more importantly, they're actually on the shelves! 

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>Matt Goodman

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>For those that didn't understand the message I apologize, it should have said "Can anyone tell me if the N&W cabooses by Precision Craft were produced.  I had 5 on order but Walthers says "sold out" and the place I ordered from told me discountinued.  I would have thought these would have sold well since most talk I have heard seemed that people wanted them.

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>Charlie

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