Train Master ?

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II have color 35-mm slides of several ex-VGN TM's in black with half moon or script heralds and 173 in black and NW..  Does anyone have shots or positive knowledge of N&W road numbers 150 -174 (the former Virginian Trainmasters) ever being in blue with half moon heralds?  Again there were a number of the ex-Virginian H-16-44's painted blue; N&W road numbers 110-149.

Ed Painter -  Narrows, VA currently living in Russellville, AR

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Subject: RE: Train Master ?

I have not seen a color shot of an ex-Vgn trainmaster in blue. However, there are many black and white shots of them with the half moon herald. Since the black half moon scheme was used a relatively short period compared to the blue half moon scheme, it is just possible that at least one of these is a shot of a blue trainmaster. Again, no smoking gun; but never say "never." Ed is right about the Wabash units being different. On page 242 of the Withers/Bowers First Generation Diesels book, the 3598 is misidentified as ex-Wabash, when the louvers clearly identify it as ex-Virginian. (and identified as such in the roster data) Compare with the ex-Wabash 3594 at the top of the page.
Jim Nichols

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Subject: RE: Train Master ?

I don't recall any ex-VGN H-24-66 Trainmasters being painted blue.  All the ex-Wabash H-24-66 Trainmasters were blue as best I recall from seeing them at Bellevue, Brewster, or Roanoke.  The problem with a blue ATLAS Trainmaster is that all the Wabash units were re-engined by ALCO prior to the merger (with stack and hood air filter modifications different than FM standards).  Additionally the Wabash units had walkway variations that are different than the previous runs by ATLAS.  Unless ATLAS is doing some significant Trainmaster model variations blue wouldn't be accurate.  For a reality check....does anyone have a picture of a blue ex-Virginian H-24-66?  Not H-16-44's ......I have shots of several ex-VGN H-16-44's in blue.

Ed Painter - Narrows, VA currently living in Russellville, AR

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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:14 PM
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It all depends on what scheme was in use at the time the individual unit was repainted. And some got repainted more than once. I remember seeing ex-Vgn trainmasters in black with the script herald. BTW - Athearn used the blue scheme, but then, Athearn is not what you wanted.
Jim Nichols

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Were the N&W Train Masters painted in the Half Moon black, and the ex Wabash repainted in the Half Moon blue? Atlas is rerunning the N&W Train Masters in Black with the Half Moon emblem, I was hoping for the blue scheme.
Stephen Rineair
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