N at W BLUE
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Mon Feb 28 15:16:48 EST 2011
Delstar is Acrylic Enamel made by PPG (Ditzler in the old days). Some of the jobbers will mix quantities as small as 2 ounces. If someone has the DuPont numbers I can check with my DuPont jobber (my nephew) and see if the formula is current. I'm sure if it was DuPont paint that was used it was Dulux enamel that has since gone the way of the Dodo, but they may have a Centari acrylic enamel formula for it.
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Subject: RE: N at W BLUE
I obtained a paint sample of both N&W Blue and Tuscan from Richard Shell some years back. Here's what he had on the labels:
N&W Blue
OEM #708A, MFG: GM/1959/TRK
DELSTAR: DAR122232 Blue
N&W Tuscan w/o Metallic Base (Used on C30-7's & SD40-2)
OEM #2S, MFG: FRD/1977/LINC
DELSTAR: DAR2831X H - Dark Red
Regards,
Russ Goodwin
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:05:00 +0000
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> Thank you everyone for your replies on my N&W Blue question. I'm going to look at the ATSF blue as suggested by Ed. I have a Oriental C-630 and if the color matches I'll be a happy camper. I'm also going to check with my local DuPont dealer on the Pelver blue and I'll report back. You know that this thing of sticking to the details can drive us crazy but it's what drives this hobby and our love for the N&W. If you think that this color is a hang up some of the units that came and went from Bellevue,Ohio would be even harder to weather properly matching pictures of specific units. Thank you everyone, George.
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> > I agree with Ed Painter's comments about the difficulty in selecting a model paint color off the shelf to represent either N&W Tuscan Red or N&W Blue.
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> > The best thing is to look at color photos of N&W blue units; as Ed says, you will see lots of variations in appearance. As I understand it, the blue paint of that era, and probably earlier, oxidized easily. I'm certain this is one reason why you see so many different "colors" of blue N&W locomotives.
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> > Years ago in an early Society Newsletter, Tom Dressler used Floquil C&O Enchantment Blue to pain what I recall was an FM switcher. Of course, even Floquil has changed the chemistry of its paints over the years. In the Oct-Dec 2010 issue of the Arrow, Rick Stone used the Polly Scale version of this color to paint his 10-6 sleeper.
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> > Jim Brewer
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> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:33:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: N at W BLUE
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> > Like N&W "Red", the topic no-one seems to agree on among the contributors to the modeling list discussions, N&W blue too is really confusing. There was much variation as to shade. Weathering, fading, dirt, what was painted over, new units that came in blue.......Regardless it did get lighter over time. I've always used Scalecoat and Scalecoat II, ATSF Blue. I like it. It matches the blue on my Oriental C-628's and C-630's and is close to the blue on Athearn or Atlas N&W locomotives or cab models. If you look at pictures N&W e2uipment painted in "Pevler/Wabash" blue there are lots of variations.
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> > Ed Painter - Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR.
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> > After veiwing many pictures and models I find myself even more confused about the proper blue to
> > use for N at W diesels. From painted brass to various manufactures of plastic models everyone seems
> > to have a different color variation. Being from Bellevue,Ohio I know that the color varied from
> > type of engine to the age of the paint and the service area of said engines. What color is color
> > is the most accepted of Polly Scale or Floquil for this application ?
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