N&W N Scale Caboose Dilemma!

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Thu May 5 09:37:00 EDT 2011


The use of the "Hamburger herald" would have begun 1964-65 timeframe. The block NW was begun in 1971. In 1959 cabooses were painted red with black/brown roof and Norfolk and Western in Roman lettering written on the sides with the number (also in Roman) centered below it. Grab irons and handrails were painted black. I'm not a N-Scale modeler but I don't recall seeing any N&W pre-1964 merger prototype cab (caboose) models in N-Scale? (CF, CG, CH, C-1, C-30, C-3) The N&W Caboose Book published by the Society and available through the Commissary has all you ever wanted to know about N&W cabs (cabooses) and more.

Ed Painter - Narrows, Virginia living in Russellville, AR



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I'd go with #2. The hamburger is later and the block NW is much later,
after engines were repainted from blue to black.

Jeff Cornelius

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Hello N&W modelers,I’m really going to need some help from you retired
formeremployees, or students of N&W history. I want to model the year
1959. I have a pretty good handleon what emblems go on what locomotives
for that era, thanks to you…forgiving me some answers and pointing me
in the right direction. Now I hope you will do thesame concerning the
cabooses.  From my findings of what is on the market for n
scalecabooses, there are three basic heralds.   1. The white hamburger
emblem below the cupola and Norfolk and Westernwritten in white block
letters below, centered on the body. These appear to beon the C-17s,
which places the cupola near the end of the car.The same configuration
appears on the C9 (Atlas calls it aNE-6), placing the cupola in the
center of the car.. This particular Atlasmodel has four numbers divided
into two sets, 557728 & 557733 and 557763& 557769. According to The N&W
Historical Society site, the caboosenumber series of 557761-557784 were
former NPR cabooses, in which one pair ofnumbers fit.  NPR was merged
into theN&W in 1964, so I am in doubt that even though the emblem “may”
fit into myera, the numbers don’t. I couldn’t find any information on
the other twonumbers.
2. N&W in small white block letters (about the size ofthe hamburger
emblem) placed directly under the cupola…period! No “Norfolk &Western”
displayed anywhere. This configuration also appears on the C17 model.
3. N&W in large white blocked letters directly under thecupola….on the
C9 model were the cupola is in the center of the car, and sameas above,
no “Norfolkand Western” displayed anywhere.   I also searched for n
scale decals (Microscale & ShellScale) of the white hamburger emblem
and couldn’t find any…just in case I hadto buy an unmarked caboose and
dress it to fit my era. My reasoning is that thecaboose emblems would
be very similar to the locomotive emblems…as they changed.I am pretty
certain that the large white block letters would not fit…eventhough the
caboose’s built date would fit in to the 1959 era. Besides, thewhite
block letters for the locomotives came in the early 70s shortly after
JohnFishwick became N&W’s CEO. That being said, I am not certain about
thesmall white block emblems on the cabooses.  So…my question is…What
N&W caboose emblems would fitinto the 1959 era?  Please correct me, if
you find any of the information Istated above is incorrect.  Thanks in
advance for your help. Bill Capranica 
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