Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956 (NW Modeling List)

[NW Modeling List]

My understanding is that the original units were assigned to the Durham
area.  In Norfolk & Western - First Generation Diesels by Withers & Bowers
on Pg. 62 - The first 4 GP9s and 4 of the first 4 RS3s "were assigned to the
Winston Salem District and were used to evaluate the merits of
dieselization."  On Pg. 184 referencing the four RS3s - the four units "were
purchased to dieselize the Roanoke to Roxboro/Durham, NC line."  

Where can the accurate decals and/or transfers be purchased for these
initial RS3s (#92-99) & Geeps (#10-13)? 

Bill Smith
Atlanta

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If you are modeling the N&W RS-3's, you need to know that the cab
differences were not just window arrangement. Because of the dual controls
the cab on the N&W units was?a little longer than standard. It appears to
have been the same dimensions as the cab on an RS-11. Naturally, this means
a slight adjustment in the handrails as well. All in all this is a more
complicated modeling project than it first appears to be. Good luck.?
?Jim Nichols




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I may be wrong but I recollect it was the Durham Line the RS-3?s were first
assigned to.? In the end they were assigned to locations like Norfolk and
Sandusky.
?
Ed Painter Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR ?
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?
They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.? Gary Rolih,
Cincinnati ?
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?
The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned?as a group to the Winston-Salem
to Roanoke line.? However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's
new book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound
coal train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY"
on May 10, 1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era
colors and lettering.? Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i
have seen other pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the
Winston-Salem line.? 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
?
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

________________________________

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To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab
window arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.? Check
pictures and maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab
sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.?

Stewart made HO RS-3?s with Phase?III carbodies.? Finding a Stewart shell
may take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find
one over time.? I did a search and found one that had already sold so they
are out there.? I?d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the
stack orientation, and short hood details.? The RS-3?s bought new by the N&W
had dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and
added addition detail to the short hood.? Looking at pictures of the 3 sides
and top of the short hood will show these details.? As for the early N&W
diesel lettering, I don?t know of and decals produced to specifically
address this scheme.? My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style
and gold color used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the
various decal sets made for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a
size match.? The Microscale set includes different sizes of lettering. ??
?
Ed Painter ? Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR ????
?
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Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
Hi all,
?
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W
acquired eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like
to investigate modelling them in HO-scale.?
?
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint
scheme which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I
know they were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956.?
?
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest
to a Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use
whatever's the best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I
understand the steam engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get
a second opinion.?
?
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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living in Russellville, AR 

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Subject: RE: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.? Gary Rolih,
Cincinnati ?
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Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned?as a group to the Winston-Salem
to Roanoke line.? However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's
new book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound
coal train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY"
on May 10, 1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era
colors and lettering.? Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i
have seen other pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the
Winston-Salem line.? 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
?
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

________________________________

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To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab
window arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.? Check
pictures and maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab
sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.?

Stewart made HO RS-3?s with Phase?III carbodies.? Finding a Stewart shell
may take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find
one over time.? I did a search and found one that had already sold so they
are out there.? I?d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the
stack orientation, and short hood details.? The RS-3?s bought new by the N&W
had dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and
added addition detail to the short hood.? Looking at pictures of the 3 sides
and top of the short hood will show these details.? As for the early N&W
diesel lettering, I don?t know of and decals produced to specifically
address this scheme.? My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style
and gold color used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the
various decal sets made for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a
size match.? The Microscale set includes different sizes of lettering. ??
?
Ed Painter ? Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR ????
?
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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:27 PM
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
Hi all,
?
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W
acquired eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like
to investigate modelling them in HO-scale.?
?
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint
scheme which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I
know they were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956.?
?
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest
to a Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use
whatever's the best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I
understand the steam engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get
a second opinion.?
?
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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Subject: RE: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
They were used on the Peavine in the 1956-57 time period, too.? Gary Rolih,
Cincinnati ?
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:01 PM
To: NW Modeling List
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
The RS3s supposedly were originally assigned?as a group to the Winston-Salem
to Roanoke line.? However, there is a picture on page 274 of Mason Cooper's
new book on the POCAHONTAS DIV published by our society showing an eastbound
coal train with three ALCO RS11s and one RS3 at Big Four, WV on the "POKY"
on May 10, 1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black steam era
colors and lettering.? Don't know if this was an unusual occurrence but i
have seen other pictures of RS3s which had wandered off from the
Winston-Salem line.? 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
?
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com

________________________________

From:NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab
window arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.? Check
pictures and maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab
sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.?

Stewart made HO RS-3?s with Phase?III carbodies.? Finding a Stewart shell
may take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find
one over time.? I did a search and found one that had already sold so they
are out there.? I?d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the
stack orientation, and short hood details.? The RS-3?s bought new by the N&W
had dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and
added addition detail to the short hood.? Looking at pictures of the 3 sides
and top of the short hood will show these details.? As for the early N&W
diesel lettering, I don?t know of and decals produced to specifically
address this scheme.? My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style
and gold color used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the
various decal sets made for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a
size match.? The Microscale set includes different sizes of lettering. ??
?
Ed Painter ? Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR ????
?
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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:27 PM
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
Hi all,
?
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W
acquired eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like
to investigate modelling them in HO-scale.?
?
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint
scheme which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I
know they were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956.?
?
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest
to a Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use
whatever's the best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I
understand the steam engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get
a second opinion.?
?
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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the "POKY" on May 10, 1956. The lead unit, at least is still in the black
steam era colors and lettering.? Don't know if this was an unusual
occurrence but i have seen other pictures of RS3s which had wandered off
from the Winston-Salem line.? 

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Where were they assigned?
?
Philip Taylor
Never assume that the way it is now is the way it has always been
http://acwrr.blogspot.com/

________________________________

From:NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Modeling N&W RS-3s in 1956
To add to this, since the RS3s were delivered with dual controls, the cab
window arrangement is different than on "stock" phase III RS3s.? Check
pictures and maybe use an extra shell of any phase model to modify the cab
sides.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
Neither the Atlas or Athearn RS-3 models are made with Phase-III carbodies.?

Stewart made HO RS-3?s with Phase?III carbodies.? Finding a Stewart shell
may take a bit of effort but through internet searches you will likely find
one over time.? I did a search and found one that had already sold so they
are out there.? I?d also caution you to look at the cab window size, the
stack orientation, and short hood details.? The RS-3?s bought new by the N&W
had dynamic brakes which effected the location of the number boards and
added addition detail to the short hood.? Looking at pictures of the 3 sides
and top of the short hood will show these details.? As for the early N&W
diesel lettering, I don?t know of and decals produced to specifically
address this scheme.? My suggestion, since the lettering was the same style
and gold color used on stream locomotives would be to investigate the
various decal sets made for N&W steam locomotives and see if you can find a
size match.? The Microscale set includes different sizes of lettering. ??
?
Ed Painter ? Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR ????
?
From:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org
[mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:27 PM
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Subject: Modelling N&W RS-3s in 1956
?
Hi all,
?
I've always been fond of RS-3s and upon realizing quickly that the N&W
acquired eight of them as their first diesels in 1955 I've decided I'd like
to investigate modelling them in HO-scale.?
?
First off, I've not found any models painted in the as-delivered paint
scheme which I understand is all-over black with Dulux gold lettering yes? I
know they were originally numbered 92-99 then renumbered 300-307 in 1956.?
?
Of those created by Athearn/MDC, Atlas and Bachmann which would be closest
to a Phase-III unit? if I cannot acquire a Phase III unit I'll use
whatever's the best stand-in. Can anyone recommend a good decal set? I
understand the steam engine decals might be a good choice but wanted to get
a second opinion.?
?
Thank you in advance
Alvie Hearren

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