Tuscan color

Sun Jul 13 16:32:53 EDT 2014

I agree that even if we did have color chips the discussion would never be finalized. Look at the Pennsy group and their never-ending discussion of THEIR Tuscan and DGLE. They DO HAVE chips and there is always someone questioning their accuracy and application to models.

Like you said..........what works for you is the right shade!

My 2¢,
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works

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On Sat, 7/12/14, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Tuscan color
 To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
 Date: Saturday, July 12, 2014, 1:10 PM

 The
 archives has informed me that we don't have color chips
 in the archives.Based on the discussion so far,
 even if we had them, it probably wouldn't settle this
 argument.I'm not sure anything would actually
 settle this argument.
 I, for one, do appreciate the guys who did chime in
 with the "this works for me" answer, that is
 really the best answer for the original
 inquirer.And it does appear that over the years
 we've learned the impact of lighting, time, distance,
 perception, weathering, and lighting.  
  Frank Bongiovanni

 On Thu,
 Jul 3, 2014 at 7:25 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
 wrote:

 FWIW
 perhaps the model committee could provide a paint chip or
 drift card to Tru-Color; I'm sure they would be glad to
 add N&W Tuscan to their line of prototypically correct
 model paints.

 Jim Brewer
 Glenwood MD

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 To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:28:14
 PM
 Subject: RE: Tuscan color

 Lee;

 What
 both Frank and Ed are talking about occurs in most every
 society. Having lived in Milwaukee, WI for several years, I
 watched an argument between a pair of Milw. Rd. HS members
 about the correct color orange on their passenger cars and
 other equipment. One member argued that the second was wrong
 in that they were all painted the same color & shade of
 orange. The second while partially agreed, he stated that
 they were not all the same color orange, as he had seen them
 come out of the paint shops is different shades of
 orange, with the paint being ordered at the same time from
 the same paint mfgr., which at the time was being delivered
 in 55 gal drums. The first individual continued to
 tell the second he was wrong but finally realized he had
 to quit arguing when the second told him that he was one of
 a half dozen employees of the Milw. Road who painted their
 equipment fleet for a living.....

 That being said, the N&W Red from
 Scalecoat color works well, however it has a bit of a
 metallic flake to it. There are several colors I have seen
 work fairly well, including WC Maroon. Another color that
 has just come onto the market is from TruColor paints, which
 is very similar in nature to the old line of Accu-Paint.
 They are now offering part # TCP-276 - PRR 1948+ Passenger
 Car Tuscan.

 I am sure that somewhere in the archives
 there is a Paint ID # for the non-metallic red, that can be
 shared and closely matched with current commercial paints
 from a PPG or ICI paint dealer. I would suggest obtaining a
 small amount of said color and try to best match that color
 by primering a piece of styrene and top coating the
 commercial grade paint, and then doing the same with several
 colors of model rr paint and seeing which works best for you
 and you lighting situation. Keep in mind that some clear
 coats will slightly shift the tone of the color of the
 paint. Also, the color primer will yield different finish
 colors as well. Tamyia offers both a white and mild grey
 primer paint for example. Darker colors tend to pop more on
 a lighter base color.

 Hope this helps.

 Regards,
 Russ
 Goodwin
 Buford, GA

 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 23:16:58 -0400
 Subject: Re: Tuscan color
 To:
 nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org

 Lee; what Ed is referring to is a "color flame
 war" that happens every time N&W Tuscan Red or
 Pevlar Blue shows up on this list.  FWIW, this also happens
 on the C&O list with Enchantment Blue, the C&O list
 and the NYC list with shades of gray, and probably just
 about every other model railroad list. 

 Hopefully someone who does a lot of painting, and is
 pleased with the result, will tell you what mix works for
 them, and will nicely mention that with lighting, etc. (the
 etc. is half a clinic)you may have to make adjustments. 
 With that I can't help; tuff enough for us Virginian
 modelers to settle on workable yellows and black.  One
 thing I can tell you, is that Dr. Jim EuDaly (he's an
 eye doc, so this isn't fantasy)actually told us in a
 clinic (at a C&O meet)that color actually varies a bit
 with scale, and (I hope I got this right)you probably need a
 tad lighter mix than an HO modeler would.  I can also tell
 you that your room lighting is probably one of the most
 important factors.  I guess there's one other thing I
 should mention because the more experienced painters
 consider it so obvious they don't mention it: make sure
 the light where you paint is the same as the light on the
 layout. 

 Frank Bongiovanni

 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
 wrote:

 My favorite modeling list topic!

 Ed Painter Narrows,VA living in Dahlonega,GA

 On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
 wrote:

 I am new member
 to the modeling list.  I am painting an N scale passenger
 car set and wondered what color you folks recommend to match
 the Tuscan red.   

 Thank
 you, 

 Lee Burns

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