Virginian AG

Tue Sep 16 19:21:24 EDT 2014

Steve: When the N&WHS was approached to help with the VGN AG model all we were ask for was the tender drawings. I volunteered to send the drawings for the sand domes and for the placement of the stoker motor under the cab on the locomotive instead of in the tender as on the C&O H8. I was told that all they were interested in was the tender. My response was good luck with your project.  When the model came out  Rivarossi/Hornby asked the Society to give our blessings on the model and review the model in the "Arrow".  We refused, telling the person who made the inquiry that there were too many incorrect details on their model for the Society to accept.  Also the window sash is painted yellow when it should have been red.  D. Harold Davenport 

PS. The statement that "the modeler could change the domes if he saw fit" is stupid.  When you spend your money you expect to receive full value for the product that is offered. It would not have cost Rivarossi much to make the three changes listed above.  On another locomotive issue, I have been talking to BWL regarding offering a N&W Y6 made off their Y6b.  The main change would be the smokebox, feedwater heater, and tender shell.  I say talking to BWL since I have not received a response. I am well on the way to making the conversion on one of my BWL Y6b's into a Y6a. The class C tender body will come from one of my BWL class A locomotives.   DHD   

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:32 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

When I was asked what model people would like to see produced, I told them
that the VGN would be a natural as the C&O version had already been done. I
knew that the domes most likely would not be changed, but all they had to do
was a new tender which would be a huge molding cost saver verses a whole new
locomotive. This was the cheapest way to get a near correct model with
little work than buying a $2000+ brass model(with no sound)and it saved them
considerable cost in producing a "new" locomotive in die work. If anyone
here receives their model please let us know what you think.
Stephen Rineair 

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I poured over some images, and I see the diffrerrences now, the Virginian
Tender sides are higher, the domes maybe a little narrower maybe slightly
longer.
The domes pop off on the RR model, so maybe if you hit Precision scale or
other parts places you may get the correct dome.
I don't understand why they couldnt tool up for the domes, but it might mean
changing the entire boiler casting just for the piping, might be why they
didnt want to mod the domes.
But the model community even some OEM manufactures have done mod kits for
other engines like a box cab for the athearn hustler, the AG would need some
piping and the domes changed.

-Lynn-

On 9/16/2014 1:39 AM, nw-modeling-list-request at nwhs.org wrote:
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> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:53:09 -0500 (CDT)
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> I own one of the second run C&O versions of the 2-6-6-2 models.  It runs
extremely good for the price, I have had no problems with it and the wheels
were in gauge.  The arrangement for the articulation is not correct but this
is a problem with almost all the non-brass articulated locomotives.  The
swing is not bad and mine had two cabs and two drawbar locations so the
overhang could be adjusted.  Overall it is a good locomotive for the price.
>  
> Kurt S. Kramke
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> On 09/15/14, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List wrote:
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> To my knowledge, the Overland is the only HO model that has been done with
the correct domes.
> Don Yelverton
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> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:34 AM, NW Modeling List<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> IF we're talking the Rivarossi, they got the tender drawings from the
Society. When I talked to the Rivarossi Hornby guy at the train show at the
NMRA National, he told me that they did do the tender in accordance with the
drawings, and did not change the domes. He said "they" thought that modelers
could change the domes more easily than the tender. To my eye it--the
tender--looked okay. I didn't break out scale rule and the drawings.
>
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> The Rivarossi C&O 2-6-6-6 runs well, I'm told. So each of us will have to
decide a)if the wrong domes bother us, b)if the domes can be fixed (3D
printing, resin, or??), c)if the rear engine swiveling bothers us, and
d)what each of us is willing to trade off for the difference between a Riv
at $4-500, a Key at $800-1,000, or the Ajin/Overland at $1,500-2,000.
There's another brass one allegedly coming out soon (PSC?) for over $3K.
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> Frank Bongiovanni
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> On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:00 PM, NW Modeling List via
NW-Modeling-List<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>  wrote:
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> I'm curious as to whether or not the tender is correct.
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> Greg Harrod
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> In a message dated 09/14/2014 5:39:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  writes:
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> Has
> anyone received the HO Virginian AG that just was released?
> Just curious
> how the model runs.
> Stephen Rineair
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> I agree I would like a blue
> one. I believe Athearn is sticking to the NS
> end as the HO GP49's
> arrived before the GP39X's. Both were announced at the
> same time and
> we know in the real world delivery was the other way around.
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> I will
> follow on my schedule and build mine from a Kato.
>
> James
> Wall
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