Virginian AG
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Tue Sep 23 18:02:43 EDT 2014
Alex,
As an individual that has written reviews for NMRA publications and others, I am willing to help on this review project.
Kurt S. Kramke
On 09/23/14, NW Modeling List wrote:
Jimmy,
I am not sure what your comment/question is. I had nothing to say about the comment you listed below. My comments were directed to your statement I Is it in the members best interests to refuse reviewing N&W/VGN models?
What we have accomplished today is raise an issue about reviewing model products. Eric Bott took the time to read the various responses and then to write up a very good approach for the NWHS to develop a guideline for reviewing products. I have asked two individuals to collaborate on such a guideline. I have put the item on the BoD agenda. And one member has submitted a product review, following Eric’s guidelines, to the modeling editor.
We can write emails back and forth about what was said, what was not said, what we thought was said or not said, or we can sit back, look at what we as members collectively accomplished because of this discussion and say all in all it wasn’t a bad day.
Alex Schust
From: NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:26 AM
To: NW Modeling List
Subject: Re: Virginian AG
Alex,
That is in direct contradiction to what was written here on the list!
"When the model came out Rivarossi/Hornby asked the Society to give our blessings on the model and review the model in the "Arrow".
Jimmy Lisle
On 9/23/2014 7:39 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
Jimmy,
You pose an interesting question about reviewing anything. First the NWHS does not have a cadre of reviewers for anything, whether it be books, models, pictures, DVDs or other items. Every time we want something reviewed, we have to find someone willing to do it. If an individual thinks a product is bad at first glance, then it is not going to be an unbiased review. As Harold notes, “… each of us must find his or her own threshold of tolerance …” Some of us think a model is great because it is lettered Norfolk & Western or Virginian, others think the same model is terrible because a row of simulated rivets is out of place.
What the NWHS does do is provide this mailing list so members can provide their opinions (or individual reviews of products) or comment on others opinions. Any member who wants to write a product review can submit it to the modeling editor (meditor at nwhs.org) for inclusion in “The Arrow.” Because of the variance in opinions based on the “threshold of tolerance,” it is difficult to say what is in the best interest of members, but I can categorically state that nothing will happen unless someone volunteers to do it.
Alex Schust
From: NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:39 AM
To: NW Modeling List
Subject: Re: Virginian AG
"When the model came out Rivarossi/Hornby asked the Society to give our blessings on the model and review the model in the "Arrow". We refused, telling the person who made the inquiry that there were too many incorrect details on their model for the Society to accept."
Did Rivarossi/Hornby actually ask for "blessings"?
"One of the major points is that each of us must find his or her own threshold of tolerance; that threshold will vary as an individual decides what is "good enough" that he is satisfied, or at least not offended, by what he sees in his basement."
Is it in the members best interests to refuse reviewing N&W/VGN models? Would it not be better to give an unbiased review to 1.) inform the membership what is available, 2.) Point out the pluses/minuses, and then, let the member decide if the model is right for them?
Jimmy Lisle
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