GP9 Interior Color and Herald Plate

Wed Jun 21 21:21:20 EDT 2017

Exactly my point.  I don't know why some locomotives have model designation plates and some do not either, but it has nothing to do with the hoods on #710-713, which as far as I can tell correctly match the spotting features for a GP9, not a GP7.

Dick Dunford

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The first N&W GP9s were Phase IIs. There are a number of spotting features that differentiate the long hoods from Phase I GP9s and the earlier GP7s. The louvers are the easiest way to tell a Phase II from the other GP9 phases. Phase IIs have louvers added to the third engine room door and only one louver set on each generator room door. Compare a side shot of 1955 Phase II #710-713 with 1954 ex-Wabash Phase 1 3487 and 3488 that were leased to the NF&D. The ex-WAB units are somewhat similar to GP7 Phase III car bodies. 

I don't know why only some orders had the stainless model designation plates. I have seen them for sale from time to time.

Thanks,

Greg Davis

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When the first N&W GP9s were delivered, the GP7 had been out of production for 16 months.  What GP7 spotting features do these units have on their hoods?  I have seen similar model designation plates on GP20s, GP30s, SD7s, SD9s, and SD24s.

Dick Dunford
Blacksburg, VA

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Jim

That is correct, the early photos bear that out, you have to look kind of hard to find that, as that was the rear of the unit, but a view of No. 10 (as delivered) shows it.

Regarding those plates, I remember seeing one as late as the late 1970s/early 1980s on an ex NKP GP still in service at JK in Roanoke.

They are not super common, but out on the market from time to time.

Ken Miller

On Jun 19, 2017, at 10:05 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:

I believe the first four GP9s delivered, 710-713, had a plate that read GP9 that was placed by the steps on the short hood end; I have been told this was because EMD did not have hoods for GPs available and placed GP7 hoods on GP9s to get them delivered; you will see these same type of plates on other road's early deliveries of GP9 locomotives; anybody heard anything like this?

Jim Brewer

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