EXTERNAL: E-units - Southern practice

Thu Apr 11 21:10:24 EDT 2019

This all reminds me of saving my allowance and odd-job $$ to buy a used Minolta SLR, on layaway no less, at age 14 for the princely sum then of $169.00. Nearly half a century later, the camera’s still on a knick-knack shelf wondering where Kodachrome 64 went! LOL. Wish I’d shot more then, glad I captured what I did, budget-permitting.
Andre Jackson

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On Thursday, April 11, 2019, 11:14 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

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Ed … I started out the same way as you.  Had Instamatic camera with 120 film, then tried the pocket 110 which was a disaster.  I started bagging groceries in a local Publix at age 15 and used the first $200, which took a while making just $2.10hr, to buy a Honeywell/Pentax 35mm with 55mm lens at Britt’s department store in Ft. Lauderdale in 1976.  Fortunately, the guy behind the counter was knowledgeable about cameras and strongly urged me to stick with Kodachrome and Kodak processing (not necessarily bought from him).  I never wavered from that except occasional trips that required Ektachrome for low light.  All of those slides still look like I shot them yesterday.  It was more important for me to take quality pictures for modeling purposes (FEC and SCL) than to get a driver’s license.  I could go anywhere I wanted on my bike or city bus which took me directly to the SCL station from my house.  Never needed to worry about being robbed or hassled at that time … I was just a high schooler with a camera around my neck.  I wouldn’t try that today!

Occasionally, I’ve mused with a local railfan friend about “what if” scenario where we could go back in time to 1 date and region for a week’s visit but take today’s digital cameras with us.  I’d pick Sept-Oct ’57 and hang out between Roanoke, Lynchburg and Monroe.  K-2a’s on local pax trains were about to reach the end of service, a rare Z-1b could be seen on a MOW train or local and diesels hadn’t overwhelmed steam.  J’s still powered the main trains, including running to Monroe but that was about to end.  The 1957 NRHS convention would be the crowning goal for the trip.  October on Blue Ridge is also a great time for Fall colors.  Of course, I’d have to “rent” a ’57 Chevy Bel Air for the trip, too!  Now if someone would develop The Way Back Machine …. hmmmm.

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 6:15 PM
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You're very correct Jim.  Later that year when I got a decent 35mm SLR and the picture quality dramatically improved.  I often think what if I had had my Canon 5D MKIII back than????  ...... but regardless we need to be grateful for what we were able to shoot!  Those opportunities will never come again.

Ed Painter; member #70, from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:33 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Ed … taking the pic is more important than the quality.  Many folks never bothered to record what was in front of them.  Granted, photography isn’t “for everyone” but those of us who often look at live thru a viewfinder now have supporting information to pass on to others and to correct our failing memories.  Thank YOU for taking the time to record this action (in between beers!).

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

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As to E8A's in freight service on the RF&P - 

When I was attending Randolph-Macon College (more accurately partying too much during) during 1970 -72, I became serious about taking railroad pictures.  (The RF&P went through the campus).  E-8s' were regularly in freight service.  I found a shot I did from 1972 with an old Kodak 35mm camera and High Speed Ektachrome film.  Its coming southbound through downtown Ashland, VA -  E8A 1007 leading either a GP35 or GP40 with an FP7A trailing.  A pretty darn poor quality shot but one you'll never get again.

Ed Painter: member #70, from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA 

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Cool pics, Jim.  Thanks for sharing!

-Eric Bott

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Southern did this … usually an E-7 or E-8 and either F-3a or FP-7.  Fairly common practice in the ‘60s.  Attached is a pic of an E-7 with FP-7 in 1966 (I think Train 42 was the northbound Pelican) and a pic of another northbound at Bristol about to hand off to the N&W.  The 2nd unit is an F-7.  I also have a pic of the Crescent in Mississippi with 3 E-8s and an FP-7 as 2nd unit.

Didn’t RF&P run E-8s in freight service lashups on an irregular basis?

Jim King

www.smokymountainmodelworks.com

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Jack is currently doing an “E and F Combo” project, for RR’s that ran E-Units and F-Units together regularly.  Maybe if RF&P used this practice, he would include them in his thinking.

Can anybody document such practice?

-Eric Bott

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A few years ago, Jack Vansworth at the Division Point was considering importing a series of E-8A diesels in brass.  I asked him about the possibility of importing the RF&P leased version in two road numbers.  He replied that if he "probably" went ahead with the E-8A project that he would "probably" do the leased RF&Ps.  That was several years ago and don't even know if the E-8A project is still on Jack's agenda. 

Bill King

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The N&W E-units in ACL and/or RF&P colors were very poor sellers. The society had a hard time getting rid of them.

Stephen Rineair

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Is there any chance the Society could re-issue the N&W E-units in ACL and/or RF&P colors using Walthers models in HO? There seemed to be popular and I'm sure others would like them too.

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

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