Union Terminal Imports Pulman 10-6 Sleeping Car Project

Tue Apr 16 14:40:49 EDT 2019

Years ago, when my tastes were much less refined and my naivete was off the
scale, I bought the West Side set in N&W colors.  I *think* the Key and
Sunset sets *may* be descendents of that; those who know for sure please
correct me as needed.

Anyway, I soon enough realized the error of my ways, and all but the coach
have long since been stripped and primed, eventually to become "home road"
cars.  Since then I have found out that those cars are actually
correct(ish) for one incarnation of the GN Empire Builder.  At a distance
of six to ten feet if you don't look too carefully, the coaches (with
41HR11 trucks with piston snubbers, i.e. NOT the Walthers version) look
sort of maybe ok for a PH coach.

I did not long ago happen across an Overland P3 for a reasonable price, and
snatched it up.  Otherwise MTH cars fill the bill for me.

Great discussion, thanks to all who have contributed.

Dave Phelps

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:22 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Very true Stephen as to quality/price relationship. (as to other poor
> models of N&W passenger cars you need to also add the Westside set.......as
> for the Overland sets of Powhatan Arrow cars they were very nicely detailed
> models and somewhat reasonable in price by today's standards at $2 to $3K a
> set)  But the price does clearly limit the market to a very select few
> resulting in only a very limited number of buyers for new brass these
> days.  Pre-orders will dictate the quantities of these N&W, 10-6 pullmans
> produced and it will be a very small number.  Only select collectors will
> be buyers .......(additionally brass passenger cars aren't cars you can
> easily run on your model railroad with weight alone being a issue....not to
> mention the potential damage that could occur should there be a
> derailment).
>
> The last piece of brass I purchased in 2017 was a N&W Y-1 from Coach
> Yard.  It was a beautiful model but one of only 11 produced at $2350 each.
> The driver to me getting it despite the price was that it completed my
> collection of at least one brass model of each  N&W Y class locomotive.  My
> Division Point Y-2a came at a similar price in 2013 and was again part of a
> very limited quantity produced and was needed to to complete my collection
> of N&W Y's.  To me these prices seem pretty low in comparative value when
> viewed against a $800+ individual passenger car, at least to me   (I'm
> waiting for an X-1 to be my last brass model)
>
> So yes there is a market for quality, new, brass models and yes they will
> sell but only in very limited quantities because of the price.
>
> Ed Painter; member #70 from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 6:43 AM NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>> Norris:
>>
>> The Price of the UTI cars are nowhere near the Quality of the poor Key (
>> didn’t even have the silver around the windows or “glass”) and even worse
>> Sunset offerings (so poor that they did not resemble N&W cars).  You get
>> what you pay for.
>>
>> The OMI cars were much improved over the Key and Sunset offerings at
>> listed over $600 + a car and that was many years ago.
>>
>> By the way the brass today has no problem in the sales department because
>> of the highly detailed models.
>>
>> Stephen Rineair
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *NW Modeling List
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2019 4:50 PM
>> *To:* NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Union Terminal Imports Pulman 10-6 Sleeping Car Project
>>
>>
>>
>> Just to think that much money ($841.00) would have bought both a complete
>> 5 car set of a painted Sunset and a painted Key Powhatan Arrow set not that
>> many years ago. You may have to have bargained a little on their retail
>> prices. I’m sure that these new releases are more detailed but at $841.00
>> per car they should be. This price is not going to attract many new N&W
>> modelers! These new releases are priced more for collectors than operators!
>> Regards,
>> Norris
>>
>> Norris Deyerle
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>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org> on behalf
>> of NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2019 3:50:30 PM
>> *To:* NW Modeling List
>> *Subject:* Re: Union Terminal Imports Pulman 10-6 Sleeping Car Project
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have heart issues keep your "Nitro" pills
>> handy....................$841!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://unionterminalimports.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/pullman-built-10-6-project-matrix-for-website-version-9.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://union-terminal-imports.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed Painter;  member #70 from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:02 AM NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Projected cost?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Phelps
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:58 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Union Terminal Imports announced that they will be setting final
>> production quantities on April 19 for their Pullman 10-6 Sleeping car
>> project in HO scale.  UTI will import seven Norfolk and Western Class S-2
>> “County Cars” in three paint schemes: Buchanan County, McDowell County and
>> Sussex County in both Tuscan Red and Pevler Blue and the Sussex County in
>> Illinois Central colors when it was leased to that road.  Anyone still
>> considering ordering these offerings should do so now since reservations
>> received after April 19 will be placed on the back-up list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill King
>>
>> Arlington, Virginia
>>
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