Earlier A (was Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List))

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Sun Dec 1 08:11:23 EST 2019 

Walt's Hobby Shop at 2791 S. Crater Rd., in Petersburg, Va, 804-861-1333, has  Athearn Genesis Redbird # 514 new in the box for $189.99 as of 11/30/19.
James Flummer

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Subject: Earlier A (was Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List))

I’d love to see an earlier version of the A (or Y) - both would fit my pre-1940 modeling period. I understand why they focus on the more modern ones, given all the promotion they received via late-steam photographers, writers, Link and others.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio US.

On Nov 26, 2019, at 3:44 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:

Personally, I think that if Proto and especially BLI failed to tool their respective Y's so as to offer other classes, it shows an amazing lack of foresight.  Same goes with BLI and their A, which should have been tooled so as to offer the earlier versions.  Every model company considering a project should always ask themselves, "What else can we do with this tooling and how do we design it to allow us to do so?"

Marty Flick


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I keep wishing someone would do a Y6a, especially with 2156 being in Roanoke.
Phil Miller

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I've just recently gotten into the hobby and am concentrating on the N&W in SW West Virginia in the 40's and 50's. I just happen to live not far from the office (and showroom for what there is) of Factory Direct Trains. I was down there this past week to pick up my Class J (#613) and was talking to the owner Joe about the Y6b. He's a BLI dealer and believes that the Y6b will come back around before long since BLI owns the molds for that model. I hope he's right!

Tom Fulton
Asheville, NC

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 9:31 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
When Athearn produced the Redbirds they did the later phase with the 48" fans one on each end and one for dynamic frids. Rd nos were 514 and 521.

At the same time they also produced two bluebird passenger GP9s 502 and 508. 502 had the 36" fans two on each end and I believe a 48" fan for dynamic grids.

I hope Athearn does indeed do a 2nd run of these as I missed the first run. I haven't modeled in over 15 years and am just now getting back into it, just to find I missed most of the models I would like by a year or few (Atheran Redbirds, BLI Y6b, etc...). If all else fails I may end up painting my own Redbirds. I just need to get the fuel tank details and roof detail stuff... But that's another story...

73,
Nathan Simmons

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:00:10 -0500
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I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay.? It depends
upon where you pre-order.

Walter Davis, Youngsville NC

On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn redbirds. I
> so believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce a bad
> model. That is what we live with today. No more brick and mortar hobby
> shops where er can see the finished model. This is the internet?
> world, either good or bad.
> .
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>> wrote:
>
>     I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who do not like
>     to preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
>
>     I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and miss out
>     on a model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
>
>     Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that missed out.
>     The other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones
>     crying because they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I have no
>     sympathy for those who don?t.
>
>     Stephen Rineair
>
>     Sent from Mail <<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
>     for Windows 10
>
>     *From: *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
>     <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>     *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
>     *To: *'NW Modeling List' <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>     *Cc: *NW Modeling List <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>     *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
>
>     I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ? especially
>     red, since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
>
>     Phil Miller
>
>     *From:*NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>
>     <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>>] *On Behalf Of *NW
>     Modeling List
>     *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
>     *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
>     *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
>
>     Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been almost
>     impossible to find since. Hopefully this inspires Genesis to do
>     another run.? I can't remember which, but they did one of two
>     phases, so they can do another run with the other phase.
>
>     Marty Flick
>
>     -----------------------------------------
>
>     From: "NW Modeling List"
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>     Cc:
>     Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
>     Subject: Genesis Redbird
>
>     I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking
>     reservations for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue.? I ordered 1 of
>     the redbirds with full dcc/sound.? Out of curiosity, I?ve
>     occasionally looked on ebay for either engine to check
>     availability (I?m not in the market for another nor plan to sell
>     mine).? I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the blue scheme but
>     none for the red.? Are these as ?rare? as lack of auctions indicates?
>
>     Jim King
>
>     <http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/> http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
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That's very correct.  Most hobby dealers that do pre-orders don't require
pro-payment of even a deposit.

Ed Painter - Member #70 from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
wrote:

> I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay.  It depends
> upon where you pre-order.
>
> Walter Davis, Youngsville NC
> On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>
> I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn redbirds. I so
> believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce a bad model. That
> is what we live with today. No more brick and mortar hobby shops where er
> can see the finished model. This is the internet  world, either good or
> bad.
> .
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who do not like to
>> preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
>>
>> I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and miss out on a
>> model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
>>
>> Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that missed out. The
>> other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones crying because
>> they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I have no sympathy for those who
>> don?t.
>>
>> Stephen Rineair
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
>> *To: *'NW Modeling List' <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>> *Cc: *NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg>>
>> *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
>>
>>
>>
>> I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ? especially red,
>> since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
>>
>> Phil Miller
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *NW Modeling List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
>> *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
>> *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been almost impossible
>> to find since.  Hopefully this inspires Genesis to do another run.  I can't
>> remember which, but they did one of two phases, so they can do another run
>> with the other phase.
>>
>> Marty Flick
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>> From: "NW Modeling List"
>> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
>> Subject: Genesis Redbird
>>
>> I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking reservations
>> for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue.  I ordered 1 of the redbirds with
>> full dcc/sound.  Out of curiosity, I?ve occasionally looked on ebay for
>> either engine to check availability (I?m not in the market for another nor
>> plan to sell mine).  I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the blue scheme but
>> none for the red.  Are these as ?rare? as lack of auctions indicates?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim King
>>
>> <http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/> http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
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