HO scale decals (NW Modeling List)

Wed Sep 23 08:56:04 EDT 2020

My two cents is the excursion stuff should not be included in the set; I'd
prefer a historically accurate set for steam era service.  I would imagine
VMT or whoever owns 611 would want some money in exchange for using their
marketing phrase.

Jim Brewer

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:01 PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
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> Slim and none. And that is optimistic!
> You can, however, get a K2 in O scale.
>
> Jim Kehn
>
>
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> This is just a question for th group what do y’all think the odds would be
> that we could get a plastic or die cast model of the N&W K2 K2A Streamlined
> locomotives in ho scale? Thanks for your thoughts and hope everyone is
> doing well.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jeff Mueller
>
> On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:03 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I like your idea and would use the decals you propose.
> Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC
> On 9/22/2020 11:24 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>
> One other factor to consider when the time comes to put together the decal
> sheet.  Do you include extra builders plates and class badges for known
> factory painted models that are lacking them, like the Broadway A's and
> J's?  Bare in mind I am not expecting an answer on this, just trying to
> generate discussion as Shellscale and the Society decide what needs to be
> included in the set, and how many of each.  But I do think there will be a
> market not just for people painting models for the first time, but also
> people who have either factory or custom painted models that they would
> want to go back and add these details to.  If I have to buy 6 sets to apply
> builders plates to 8 engines, I will, but if I could do the same number of
> engines and only buy 2 sets, that would be great.  It all depends on how
> many decals you have to arrange on the sheet, or sheets (A lot of
> Shellscale sets have used 2 sheets).
>
> Also, one revision I like on the most recent Microscale sheet is they
> supplied black backgrounds for the builders plates, which makes a big
> difference if applying them to an engine with a smoke box that lacks the
> boiler jacketing.
>
> Marty Flick
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> While excursion era 611 decals have no interest for me I think Marty has
> the right idea. If going for the ultimate steam set then that should also
> be a part of it.
>
> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:46:10 PM CDT, NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Not to open up a can of worms, because I know some people are sensitive
> about this, but any possibility of throwing in a couple of excursion era
> graphics for 611 on the decal sheet?  For example, decals for the Robert
> Claytor plaque and the "I am the thoroughbred of steam..." sticker?
>
> I'd buy the set either way, but if we are going for the ultimate N&W steam
> decal set, why not include as much as possible?
>
> Marty Flick
>
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> Richard and I have already been discussing this and it will be correct.
> Believe me.
>
> Besides builders and class plates, I am thinking headlight number boards,
> number plates, all sizes and designs of steam, cabside lettering,
> appropriate tender tank lettering, etc. etc.
>
> Ken Miller
>
> > On Sep 20, 2020, at 1:39 PM, NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > All
> >
> > I would love to see some N&W Steam Decals produced with research and
> techniques up to 2020 standards. The B&O folks just got a set in the last
> year with the correct lettering style. Archive research throughout the
> hobby has brought these fine details to the fore. Let's include a detailed
> usage guide so you don't have to guess about which lettering size goes
> where.
> >
> > But please let's not forget about some of the smaller size locos like G,
> M and W and maybe we can get some of those older brass models out of
> closets and from underneath layouts and taking places of honor on top of
> the layout. No. 6 has gathered a lot of dust waiting.
> >
> > Stoney
> > Rick C. Stone
> > NWHS #0001
> >
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:21:04 +0000 (UTC)
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> >> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
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> >> Marty,
> >>
> >> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing
> >> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a
> generic
> >> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
> >> committee could address this issue.
> >>
> >> Jim Brewer
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> >>> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> >>> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the
> >>> builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color
> instead
> >>> of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of
> classes
> >>> repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other
> >>> than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so
> it
> >>> is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around
> but
> >>> can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know
> the
> >>> Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there
> >>> any options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set
> and
> >>> combining it with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 09:38:46 -0400
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> >> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the minority
> >>
> >> Joe Grzelak
> >>
> >> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff Wood
> >>>
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> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:42:22 -0400
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> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1094.1600617989.10487.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit
> undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly high
> number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore demand must be
> there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates (Class
> J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were also
> chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast iron I know
> for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and
> the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing
> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a generic
> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
> committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the
> builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color instead
> of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of classes
> repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other
> than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so it
> is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around but
> can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know the
> Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any
> options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and
> combining it with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:30:38 +0000
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> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1095.1600619825.10487.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> <mailman.1095.1600619825.10487.nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> >>
> >> Two questions then:
> >> How do we show our interest for the Society to gauge demand?
> >> Rather than the Society invest in the production, could you first
> >> engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their decal?
> >> Marty Flick
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit
> >> undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly
> >> high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore
> >> demand must be there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates
> >> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were
> >> also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast
> >> iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and
> >> the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is
> >> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and
> >> has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the
> >> NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> >> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> >> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put
> >> the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass
> >> color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor
> >> selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There are no
> >> A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these
> >> additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version still
> >> does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in
> >> production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the
> >> plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides
> >> finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it
> >> with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
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> >> Microscale does offer their N&W steam set in N scale. I believe it is
> >> identical to the HO, so the limited builders plates and class badges
> >> remain. If Microscale were to further revise their HO set, the N scale
> >> would probably receive the same updates.
> >> Marty Flick
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 11:43:08AM
> >> Subject: Re: HO scale decals
> >>
> >> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the
> >> minority
> >>
> >> Joe Grzelak
> >> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
> >> Jeff Wood
> >>
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> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
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> >> ?Up to the minute update: With the assistance of the Society,
> ShellScale Decals will be producing the steam set in 2021 in HO, O and N
> Scale.?If you are familiar with our quality you know this will be a good
> thing.?Richard D. ShellShellScale Decals?In a message dated 9/20/2020
> 12:37:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:?
> >> Two questions then:?How do we show our interest for the Society to
> gauge demand??Rather than the Society invest in the production, could you
> first engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their
> decal??Marty Flick
> >>
> >> ?
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >> From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: "NW Modeling List"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
> >> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit
> undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly high
> number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore demand must be
> there for the investment of time.
> >>
> >> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates (Class
> J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were also
> chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast iron I know
> for sure, class plates bronze.
> >>
> >> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and
> the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
> >>
> >> It all depends on demand.
> >>
> >> Best
> >> Ken Miller
> >>
> >>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Marty,
> >>>
> >>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing
> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a generic
> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
> committee could address this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Brewer
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the
> builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color instead
> of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of classes
> repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other
> than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so it
> is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around but
> can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know the
> Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any
> options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and
> combining it with the Microscale?
> >>>
> >>> Marty Flick
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________________
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