EXTERNAL: Re: HO scale K2 was HO Scale decals (NW Modeling List)

Wed Sep 30 10:47:26 EDT 2020

Eric,
I hear your pain. That's a cheap punch to those who, by early reservations and or payment, supported the production of an engine/car. In fairness people who reserved and paid the price should get a refund in my book. Like in your case it's a good way to drive away customers who are willing to play the full game.
Over the years I have seen new "improved" releases to only find something new but an omission of something the previous runs had that was a strong modeling point.
I've also seen exquisite models produced with the wrong paint. How could any importer research enough to produce such a model and blow it on the paint job? Makes no sense to me. Personally I paint my own stuff so I prefer naked brass and most importers now won't bring in any.
For the time being we are lucky to have LMB's M and Sunset's M, M-1 and M-2. For those with very deep pockets PSC has made available several M-2's that are beautifully painted and detailed with working class lights and HL & BULs. Maybe someday a plastic manufacturer might do the 475 and some detail changed sisters for us. Keep your fingers crossed, write letters and emails and bend their ears when you see those guys at shows. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works 

    On Wednesday, September 30, 2020, 08:51:25 AM CDT, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:  

Roger et al:

I’m highly reluctant to place a reservation for additional reasons.  I wanted a C&O M-1 model for years, having missed out on the OMI models.  When DP announced, I placed a reservation.  The model was promised to be “better than OMI’s”, and to have “cab interior detailing”, and to have “DCC and authentic sound files”.

I received the modelmany months later.  The finish was perfect, although the color placement was questioned.  The OMI model finish is pretty good too, from what I understand.  Where the OMI models had opening coal bunkers and front doors (to view the air pump details), the DP model did not.  Yes, the DP model cab included a brake stand, but you could look through the cab window and see the driveline turning through a slot in the floor.  I don’t accept that as “detailed cab interior”.  No electrical cabinets were modeled in the cab.  The sound is anemic, the lighting decent.  Overall, I was very disappointed in the model, and wish that I had waited until one of the OMI models became available.

To heap injury on injury, six weeks after BrassTrains delivered the models for which reservations were made, they discounted their “store inventory” of the M-1’s by 10% from what the reservers paid.  Boy, that stung.  And BT has done that again with the GPM PRR T-1 models, except that when BT holds a sale this fall, you willstill be able to buy a new GPM T-1 for 15% off, assuming that you’re willing to part with ~$2900 for one. 

Yes, I really want a model of a UP coal turbine #80.  Will I place a reservation for the announced DP model?  Oh, Hell no.  Would I order a brass N&W M sight unseen, for delivery two years out, with the likelihood that I will be obligated to pay $2000 for it?  No longer in the cards.  If one happens to be produced, I will take a hard look at it and decide whether to go for one in the aftermarket, and what price I’m willing to pay for it, then.  After the C&O M-1, and a bad experience with a PSC Commodore Vanderbilt, I’m not willing to place much faith in the importers any more.

-Eric Bott

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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: HO scale K2 was HO Scale decals (NW Modeling List)

Problem is many don't respond to any announcements for proposed engines for several reasons. A big reason is most require a firm reservation and cash commitment. Many of us are a bit timid about that method of doing business. Ask those who have paid in advance for the B&O I-1 and I-5 cabooses that are SEVERAL YEARS late and no immediate release date. Not even any response from the company.

This happens and once in a while you lose everything. Most companies do eventually produce and deliver but who wants their money tied up for maybe years waiting?

Others hold off responding because they figure there will be plenty of people responding so why me too? That really hurts us too.

It would sure be nice to have more nice quality brass M's but something along the likes of a Spectrum M would be most welcome. Thankfully BLI likes big engines and Pennsy so I doubt if they will produce a problem M for us.

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020, 07:01:26 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

What ever happened to that person that planned a brass m? I'm assuming we did not get near 50 reservations that seems to be what you need to profit at least per a importer site I was on.

David Baker

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 6:23 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Yeah I agree Roger I’d love to see someone like broadway limited do a go brass hybrid M,M1 or M2 just my thoughts. It be nice to have a nice version of 475 that isn’t brass.

Sincerely,

Jeff Mueller

On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:38 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

The only HO scale K-2 streamlined model I know of was the one by KEY. Sunset had announced one in O and HO but never came through with the HO model. 

I saw a nice model done by a fellow using the Spectrum USRA 4-8-2 and some cobbled up Bachmann J shells. Obviously the boiler and all was oversized but he had fun, it looked decent and much cheaper then the KEY version. 

The KEYs are common items on feebay and I've seen them run from $395 way up to $895 unpainted. I always hoped Bachmann would make a K-2 streamlined using their available (at the time) USRA mechanism.

I'd still rather see a Spectrum quality M or M-2!

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

On Monday, September 28, 2020, 12:57:59 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote: 

@Jimmy,

Do you know which manufacture it was? I know Key did it in ho scale and I think Dunset did it as well just wondering.

Sincerely,

Jeff Mueller

On Sep 28, 2020, at 11:58 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

I used to have one of the brass K2a's. I didn't think that it was done very well. Especially the skyline casing.

Jimmy Lisle

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There is a brass K2 out there in small numbers. The quantity of shells for which there would be a market in plastic is in the dozens, too few for the big manufacturer but just right for 3D printers who produce to the demand. Browser produced mountain drive kits and there are still many good IHC mountains out there.

Jeff Cornelius 

On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Slim and none. And that is optimistic!

You can, however, get a K2 in O scale.

Jim Kehn

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This is just a question for th group what do y’all think the odds would be that we could get a plastic or die cast model of the N&W K2 K2A Streamlined locomotives in ho scale? Thanks for your thoughts and hope everyone is doing well.

Sincerely,

Jeff Mueller

On Sep 22, 2020, at 5:03 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

I like your idea and would use the decals you propose.

Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC

On 9/22/2020 11:24 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:

One other factor to consider when the time comes to put together the decal sheet.  Do you include extra builders plates and class badges for known factory painted models that are lacking them, like the Broadway A's and J's?  Bare in mind I am not expecting an answer on this, just trying to generate discussion as Shellscale and the Society decide what needs to be included in the set, and how many of each.  But I do think there will be a market not just for people painting models for the first time, but also people who have either factory or custom painted models that they would want to go back and add these details to.  If I have to buy 6 sets to apply builders plates to 8 engines, I will, but if I could do the same number of engines and only buy 2 sets, that would be great.  It all depends on how many decals you have to arrange on the sheet, or sheets (A lot of Shellscale sets have used 2 sheets).

Also, one revision I like on the most recent Microscale sheet is they supplied black backgrounds for the builders plates, which makes a big difference if applying them to an engine with a smoke box that lacks the boiler jacketing.  

Marty Flick

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While excursion era 611 decals have no interest for me I think Marty has the right idea. If going for the ultimate steam set then that should also be a part of it.

Roger Huber 

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:46:10 PM CDT, NW Modeling List<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Not to open up a can of worms, because I know some people are sensitive about this, but any possibility of throwing in a couple of excursion era graphics for 611 on the decal sheet?  For example, decals for the Robert Claytor plaque and the "I am the thoroughbred of steam..." sticker?

I'd buy the set either way, but if we are going for the ultimate N&W steam decal set, why not include as much as possible?

Marty Flick

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Richard and I have already been discussing this and it will be correct. Believe me.

Besides builders and class plates, I am thinking headlight number boards, number plates, all sizes and designs of steam, cabside lettering, appropriate tender tank lettering, etc. etc.

Ken Miller

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> I would love to see some N&W Steam Decals produced with research and techniques up to 2020 standards. The B&O folks just got a set in the last year with the correct lettering style. Archive research throughout the hobby has brought these fine details to the fore. Let's include a detailed usage guide so you don't have to guess about which lettering size goes where.
> 
> But please let's not forget about some of the smaller size locos like G, M and W and maybe we can get some of those older brass models out of closets and from underneath layouts and taking places of honor on top of the layout. No. 6 has gathered a lot of dust waiting.
> 
> Stoney
> Rick C. Stone
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>> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
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>> Marty,
>> 
>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing
>> really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a generic
>> set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling
>> committee could address this issue.
>> 
>> Jim Brewer
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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>>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
>>> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
>>> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the
>>> builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color instead
>>> of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of classes
>>> repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other
>>> than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so it
>>> is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around but
>>> can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know the
>>> Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there
>>> any options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and
>>> combining it with the Microscale?
>>> 
>>> Marty Flick
>>> 
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>> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the minority
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>> Joe Grzelak
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>>> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale.
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>>> Jeff Wood
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>> Marty
>> 
>> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore demand must be there for the investment of time.
>> 
>> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
>> 
>> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
>> 
>> It all depends on demand.
>> 
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marty,
>>> 
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
>>> 
>>> Jim Brewer
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it with the Microscale?
>>> 
>>> Marty Flick
>>> 
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>> To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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>> Two questions then:
>> How do we show our interest for the Society to gauge demand?
>> Rather than the Society invest in the production, could you first
>> engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their decal?
>> Marty Flick
>> 
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>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit
>> undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly
>> high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore
>> demand must be there for the investment of time.
>> 
>> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates
>> (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were
>> also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast
>> iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
>> 
>> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and
>> the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
>> 
>> It all depends on demand.
>> 
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marty,
>>> 
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is
>> nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and
>> has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the
>> NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
>>> 
>>> Jim Brewer
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam
>> locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I
>> ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put
>> the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass
>> color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor
>> selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There are no
>> A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these
>> additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version still
>> does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in
>> production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the
>> plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides
>> finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it
>> with the Microscale?
>>> 
>>> Marty Flick
>>> 
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>> Microscale does offer their N&W steam set in N scale. I believe it is
>> identical to the HO, so the limited builders plates and class badges
>> remain. If Microscale were to further revise their HO set, the N scale
>> would probably receive the same updates.
>> Marty Flick
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>> I agree, But I doubt if it will be done, We seem to be in the
>> minority 
>> 
>> Joe Grzelak
>> On 9/20/2020 3:21 AM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>> It would be nice to have these decals in n-scale. 
>> Jeff Wood 
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>> ?Up to the minute update: With the assistance of the Society, ShellScale Decals will be producing the steam set in 2021 in HO, O and N Scale.?If you are familiar with our quality you know this will be a good thing.?Richard D. ShellShellScale Decals?In a message dated 9/20/2020 12:37:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:?
>> Two questions then:?How do we show our interest for the Society to gauge demand??Rather than the Society invest in the production, could you first engage with MicroScale to offer a further update of their decal??Marty Flick
>> 
>> ?
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>> Sent: Sunday September 20 2020 12:23:08PM
>> Subject: Re: HO N&W Steam Decals
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
>> The Society can do the N&W steam decals, the Microscale set is a bit undersized for the 10 inch letters. However, we have to order a fairly high number of sets to keep the pricing reasonable, and therefore demand must be there for the investment of time.
>> 
>> They can be done with correct builder?s plates and class plates (Class J plates were chromed, I believe the streamlined K2 plates were also chromed) and bronze for most of the others, the Y3s were cast iron I know for sure, class plates bronze.
>> 
>> We could also include the correct early small cab size lettering, and the aluminum color lettering for passenger power.
>> 
>> It all depends on demand.
>> 
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 10:41 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marty,
>>> 
>>> I checked the ShellSclae, K4, and Tichy offerings but there is nothing really on point; Tichy offers the stripe set for the J, and has a generic set of builders plates. Otherwise zilch. Perhaps the NWHS Modeling committee could address this issue.
>>> 
>>> Jim Brewer
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> Other than Microscale, are there any choices for HO scale N&W steam locomotive decals that include the builders plates and class badges? I ordered Microscale's latest revision, and while it does finally put the builders plates and class badges in more of a bronze or brass color instead of dulux gold like the lettering, it still has a poor selection of classes repesented on the plates and badges. There are no A's, and no Y's other than Y6b. Their O scale revision includes these additional classes, so it is frustrating that the HO version still does not. I've looked around but can't find any currently in production other than Microscale. I know the Champ sets don't have the plates and badges I am looking for. Are there any options besides finding an appropriately sized "A" in another set and combining it with the Microscale?
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Subject: Re: HO scale K2 was HO Scale decals (NW Modeling List)

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