NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 234, Issue 12

Sun Jun 26 15:39:12 EDT 2022

Gentlemen

Since the discussion has moved on to passenger cars, I have 12 or so of the
"Bev-Bel" Athern cars (e.g.Sussex County).  And of course also the Bachmann
cars as well.  If any interest I'd be pleased to forward additional
details/photos/box prices etc.  I guess this could be termed a "moving
sale" for that's (unfortunately) what it is.  All the best.

Ed Svitil
N&WHS $0317

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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: S-2 sleepers by Walthers
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> Based on Marty's comments, you might want to consider ordering the car(s)
> and then sell them if you don't like them.
> if they do sell out, you could maybe sell over retail.
> Mike Rector
>
> *Walthers has not been doing a lot of extra passenger cars lately, so while
> I know a wait and see what it looks like mindset makes sense, especially
> with the paint color, there is a strong chance that if you don't reserve
> one, you may have trouble finding them.  I fully expect Walthers to sell
> out almost immediately, so you will have to track them down through a
> dealer who ordered cars for stock and not just customer reservations.
> -Marty Flick*
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> On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 4:35 PM NW Modeling List <
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> wrote:
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> > Most Walthers HO scale passenger cars come fully decorated, but with no
> > car number or car name, and a decal sheet is included for modelers to
> apply
> > their own car name/number as appropriate.  It is not a letter or number
> > jumble, so the names of the three N&W County cars will be included, each
> > being a single decal.
> >
> > I'm not familiar with the Arrow upgrades mentioned earlier, but the
> > Walthers Proto series cars are some of the best HO passenger cars you'll
> > ever see, and they are far superior to the Rivarossi/AHM cars.  That
> said,
> > everyone has their own definition of good enough.
> >
> > These cars are being released as part of Walthers' next passenger train,
> > the PRR General, so advanced reservation is more accurate than backorder.
> > Walthers has not been doing a lot of extra passenger cars lately, so
> while
> > I know a wait and see what it looks like mindset makes sense, especially
> > with the paint color, there is a strong chance that if you don't reserve
> > one, you may have trouble finding them.  I fully expect Walthers to sell
> > out almost immediately, so you will have to track them down through a
> > dealer who ordered cars for stock and not just customer reservations.
> >
> > Walthers has only done a couple of N&W cars, so it is hard to guess what
> > color they will use.  I believe they did use different shades of tuscan
> for
> > the N&W BEk baggage cars as opposed to the PRR B60b, so the N&W 10/6 may
> be
> > a different color than the PRR.  Comparing pictures, the N&W car looks
> more
> > brown than the MTH Arrow cars, but also appears to be a different shade
> > than the PRR car.  Of course all of this is preproduction and probably
> > digitally edited, so you can't trust the colors pictured.
> >
> > Marty Flick
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> > Sent: Tuesday June 14 2022 7:31:18AM
> > Subject: Re: S-2 sleepers by Walthers
> >
> > At this point the link responded with a "backorder " which is like a
> > tentative reservation if there are enough of them. I have several of the
> > 20th century Rivarossi/Bachmann cars which needs some upgrades,  which I
> > have yet to do. But I do have the issues of the Arrow with the
> > information.
> > How much better than a Rivarossi 10-6 with an AHM interior and the Arrow
> > upgrades will the Walthers car be? I only need one for the Shenandoah
> > Valley 1/2 New York Train...
> >
> >
> > Jeff Cornelius
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> Thank you?Jim Nichols for the S-2?assignment info. ?The wealth of
> knowledge on here never disappoints!
> Dutch Thompson?
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> Subject: Re: S-2 sleepers by Walthers
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>  The S2's were delivered in the fall of 1948. The S1's came in late 1949
> and early 1950. As delivered, the S2's were not assigned a class. When the
> Budd cars were assigned class S1, it was decided to give the Pullman cars a
> class also, but S1 was already used, so they became S2. Idon't know when
> they endered the general pool, but eventually an S1 would show up on the
> Shenandoah Valley trains, replacing the Buchanan County on that run. With
> cut backs, N&W had too many sleepers, so the S2's were leased to the IC,
> who repainted them in IC colors. (probably in the early 1960's) With the
> sale of the S1's in 1964, N&W got the S2's back, and the Buchanan County
> (at least) was painted red again (possibly N&W tuscan), but got the PRR
> style stripes back.I would not expect to see sleepers in a 1959 excursion.
> Anyway, they were still in regular service at that time.
> Jim Nichols
>     On Wednesday, June 15, 2022, 01:34:23 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>  Jim, thanks for the very useful info on these cars.??I model late 50's.
> (dictated by existence?of Iaeger/Auville coaling station which was
> completed in '56 I believe).? I would use these cars for excursion trains
> that were in Auville in Nov 59 (I think ?)
> Will you please give us an educated?guess on the following questions
> Approximately, when were S2's delivered?
> Approximately, when were the S1's delivered?and the S2's assigned to the
> general pool??(side question, why did S1s arrive after S2s - did they order
> more, or were they maybe ordered at same time and S2's arrived
> earlier)Approximately?when were the S2's repainted in N&W tuscan red?
> Mike Rector
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:09 AM NW Modeling List <
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>  The initial assignments of the S2's were as follows: Buchanan County on
> trains 1&2 Raonoke-New York, McDowell County New York-Williamson on 15 and
> 16, Sussex County on the Cannonball NewYork-Norfolk. They were paired with
> an identical PRR car. On the New York-Williamson run it was the Juniata
> Rapids. Later, after the S1's were delivered, they became part of the
> general pool.
> Jim Nichols
>     On Wednesday, June 15, 2022, 08:56:18 AM CDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>
> I believe they were purchased for use on trains 1 & 2 up the Shenandoah
> Valley line between New York and Roanoke, but may have also served on
> either the Pocahontas or Cavalier between Roanoke and other stations.
> Marty Flick
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> Subject: Re: S-2 sleepers by Walthers
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> We?re the three S-2?s?used on specific?trains, or werethey used system
> wide?
> Regards,
> Dutch Thompson
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> I must have missed the answer somewhere along the way.? When were they
> purchased and what were the cars names?? Thank you.? Walter Davis,
> Youngsville, NC
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> On 6/15/2022 4:11 PM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List wrote:
> > Thank you Jim Nichols for the S-2?assignment info. ?The wealth of
> > knowledge on here never disappoints!
> >
> > Dutch Thompson
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