Leadville Designs H9 Hopper Kits

Tue Aug 9 19:30:31 EDT 2022

Hi Mike;

The gorilla in the economic analysis are (1) design time and (2) machine
time.  The resin cost is barely in the equation.  Design time includes the
person's time and the cost of the CAD system and computer hardware.
Machine time is machine cost, power, maintenance, set up, etc.  Shapeways
is an option once the design is done.  Shapeways provides a realistic
method to estimate the actual cost.  They are not out of line for the
service they provide.  There MANY other 3D printing shops, almost all
geared to industrial customers, and their pricing is similar.

Nigel

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 4:39 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> The solution is probably 3D printing.
> I wish I had more time to devour to this, as I would definitely tackle a
> couple hooters. I am a hobbyist and very new to 3D modeling so it takes me
> too long. I have 3 projects underway now.  And 1 additional planned. Those
> will take me through the end of the year for sure.
>
> I'D like to do a hopper or two, a CF and an M1 RPO.  But it will be a
> while before I start for sure.  I don't quite have the level of experience
> to create a perfect model, but hopefully I will get there someday.
>
>
> There are a lot of guys doing these on Facebook 3D modeling and printing
> groups. It would be worthwhile if we could find someone (not me) who would
> create the file for a fee and give it freely to be printed by anyone after
> completed.  The problem being that most of these guys are doing what I am
> doing and creating their own stuff for their own favorite roads, and
> probably don't have time to create a model. I don't have a good feeling for
> what they would charge or something like that, but I would expect it to be
> more than $1,000. The thing is, if you could get 10 people to kick in say
> $150, they could then print unlimited number of hoppers for around $5.00
> bucks worth of resin each. (Then you need paint and decals and trucks,
> although people are starting to create trucks in resin, too). It's not
> perfect, but if you compare the cost against 10 BLI hoppers, it's about the
> same price.
>
> Mike Rector
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 10:51 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> This obviously is not the solution for those who want a full train of
>> H9's. BTW: I just finished scratchbuilding an H9 in styrene. Not the
>> solution if you want a full train of them, but a lot cheaper than the brass
>> kit. (and probably didn't take much longer to put together) As far as I can
>> remember, nobody has ever offered the H9 commercially before (in HO anyway)
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 07:13:11 AM EDT, NW Modeling List via
>> NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, looking at the pictures and description on their site it's all
>> brass and nickel silver construction. That explains the high cost for a
>> kit. It doesn't come with trucks or couplers. The interior isn't very
>> detailed looking at the one picture showing it.
>>
>> The $89.95 for a brass car isn't outrageous in this day though. It states
>> a solid cast brass frame. Me thinks a brass car with a solid brass/NS body
>> will be a considerable weight to drag around should one knock off a Brinks
>> truck for a dozen or so. Then add the trucks, couplers and coal loads!
>>
>> It comes with decals so that saves a few bucks!
>>
>> I believe I can pass on their generous offer!
>>
>> Roger Huber
>> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 08:35:24 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> $89.00 for a kit?! Are they nuts?
>>
>> Ken Rees
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> Date: 8/8/22 7:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> Cc: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: Leadville Designs H9 Hopper Kits
>>
>> Before dropping $100 on just one car kit does anybody have any feedback
>> on how these look?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> Amherst, OH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 08:02:33 AM EDT, NW Modeling List via
>> NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Leadville Designs is planning to release kits for the H9 hopper in both
>> HO and N Scales next month.
>>
>>
>> https://leadvilledesigns.com/products/n-scale-norfolk-western-h-9-hopper-kit-pre-order-for-august-delivery
>>
>>
>> https://leadvilledesigns.com/products/ho-scale-norfolk-western-h-9-hopper-kit-pre-order-for-august-delivery
>>
>> -Evan Miller
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