NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 261, Issue 13 - modeling era and H35 hoppers

Wed Jul 24 08:32:46 EDT 2024

Ben,
This will be the existing Accurail twin hopper custom decorated for the
N&WHS as the class H-35 which, to my knowledge they have never offered.
Additionally, there will be both numbered and unnumbered kits available.
The unnumbered kits will include decals with side and end road numbers to
properly make a dozen unique cars, and with a little additional effort, one
can use the provided numbering to create and desired road number.  If this
project sells well, the society will be able to consider more ambitious
projects (i.e. more investment) which may include models from other
manufacturers or 3D printed models of freight and passenger cars as well as
other N&W layout items.  Please offer your support for this initiative if
you are able.
Thanks,
Jim Cochran

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 8:12 AM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
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> I am just curious, are Accurail going to make tooling for this H35 hopper,
> or is what is being discussed, a repaint of an existing car?
>
> It occurs to me that those ex-Virginian hoppers look kind of distinctive
> with that lowered sill (?? -I don't know how to refer to it.)
>
> The pictures are handy for me , as I see they were around at least until
> 1980.  (The models not so much, HO isn't feasible in my London flat.)
>
> On the C&O Piney Creek Sub Facebook page, the guy has an HL hopper that
> has 'somehow survived in this backwater'.  Did that happen much on the N&W
> ?
>
> Ben Scanlon
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Era
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> I model the 1950's around Roanoke in HO (N&W), so I guess I'm transition
> era as well. I do have late steam and early diesel power.
>
> Jon Jones
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 12:04?PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
> > My layout (under construction) is NCE-powered DCC, with all PECO
> flextrack
> > and turnouts, and mostly Tam Valley CB, ARs and turnout controls.
> >
> > I model the mid-50s N&W, steam only.
> >
> > I model the N&W BECAUSE of its unrivaled steam heritage and history.  I
> > never liked diesels (ok, I can appreciate those beautiful War Bonnet
> early
> > AT&SF diesels), and morn the passage of steam.  (I also like P-51
> Mustangs,
> >  289 Cobras and 65-66 389 Tri-Power GTOs ? so, what can I say?).
> >
> > Once I learned of that history, interest in ?big name? roads, such as the
> > PRR, NYC, SF, etc., disappeared.  I model the end of the steam era in
> > America proudly kept alive for a few more years on the N&W!
> >
> > I have an MTH ?J? with 7 MTH tuscan red passenger cars, including a diner
> > car and a baggage car (would love an RPO or REX).  I have a canteen but
> do
> > not commonly run it as it is not the quality of the MTH consist (which I
> > believe to be the most faithful and beautifully made of the N&W ?J?
> trains
> > available).
> >
> > I run a BLI ?A? with mixed freight.  It is the largest of the locos I run
> > with 24? radius curves and No.6 turnouts on my layout.
> >
> > I have a ?Y6b? on a siding being worked on in my steam service yard
> > (traditional roundhouse, turn table, water tower, coaling tower, etc.).
> A
> > second BLI ?A? is commonly parked there.
> >
> > In my coal mine area I hope to have a BLI N&W Shay (on back order) still
> > at work.  N&W coal hopper cars populate sidings at two mines.
> >
> > Not a diesel to be seen or heard.
> >
> > Bill D
> > N&W Steam Only
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2024, at 8:13?AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Stephen,
> > Nor discounting your information on modelers in general, Rick Musser's
> > poll from last year as well as my personal feedback this year, indicates
> > that N&WHS modelers still mostly favor transition era and some even
> > earlier.  Not to say that this will not be changing over the coming
> years,
> > but for now, the sweet spot for our group seems to be late steam/early
> > diesel.
> > I would be very happy to hear more feedback on this as we only ever get
> > responses from a very small percentage of the membership, so LET YOUR
> VOICE
> > BE HEARD!
> > Jim Cochran
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 8:03?AM NW Modeling List <
> > nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> >> If the society is going to sell a model that will get the most sales,
> >> then they should look to the Model Railroader survey recently taken that
> >> most modeling is in the 70?s era. The transition era is not longer the
> most
> >> modeled era. I myself have dumped the steam era as there is very little
> >> plastic steam available and expensive worn out brass models and
> replacement
> >> parts are non existant. I now model late 60?s, 70?s and 80?s. There is
> so
> >> much-much more offered/available. I would NOT buy any boxcars, but would
> >> buy multible hoppers if they fit my era. If the modeling committee
> wants to
> >> do a project then correct the lettering diagham on the BLI H2a hoppers
> >> which I am told is incorrect.
> >>
> >> Just my 2 cents.
> >>
> >> Stephen Rineair
> >>
> >> Member 072
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> *Subject: *Re: Era
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There may be more models out there than we realize for that time frame.
> >> Just recently I saw advertisements for N&W/NS G72 pipe gondolas from
> Bridge
> >> Line Design, N&W G-12 and CS-4 gondolas from Plate C Model Prototypes,
> and
> >> N&W F20 flat cars with and without Mack cabs as a load from Scale 3d
> >> Productions. While not N&W there'a also a new model for the Southern
> radio
> >> control cars from that timeframe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I suspect as times goes on the 60s, 70s, and 80s will be a popular time
> >> to model. Personally I shoot for the 40s and 50s but also like stuff
> from
> >> the late 90s.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Brian Dembinski
> >>
> >> Amherst, OH
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> >> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 08:38:08 PM EDT, NW Modeling List <
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> I don't know who called Ed a show off.  But (don't panic guys; I'm still
> >> doing Virginian in 1956)he has supported what I and some others have
> been
> >> saying; for the Society to stay afloat and even get larger, and to keep
> up
> >> with our mission, we need to do more for the modelers doing N&W post
> 1964
> >> and NS.  Love A's and Y's and J's but we need to be more mindful of our
> >> future.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Frank Bongiovanni
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 12:00 PM, NW Modeling List
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> Is there not another way to do this instead of filling up everyone's
> mailbox????Jimmy LisleSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> Date: 7/23/24  6:17 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: NW
> Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> Subject: RE: Era If you selling
> only to the society members your data would hold true. If you selling to
> the mass market, 70?s is where it?s at nationally. I am just going by what
> a national mag poled.Stephen Rineair?Sent from Mail for Windows?From: NW
> Modeling ListSent: Tuesday, July 23, 2024 8:13 AMTo: NW Modeling
> ListSubject: Re: Era?Stephen,Nor discounting your information on modelers
> in general, Rick Musser's poll from last year as well as my personal
> feedback this year, indicates that N&WHS?modelers still mostly favor
> transition era and some even earlier.? Not to say that this will not be
> changing over the coming years, but for now, the sweet spot for our group
> seems to be late steam/early diesel.I would be very happy to hear more
> feedback on this as we only ever get responses from a very small percentage
> of th
> e membership, so LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!Jim Cochran?On Tue, Jul 23, 2024
> at 8:03?AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:If the
> society is going to sell a model that will get the most sales, then they
> should look to the Model Railroader survey recently taken that most
> modeling is in the 70?s era. The transition era is not longer the most
> modeled era. I myself have dumped the steam era as there is very little
> plastic steam available and expensive worn out brass models and replacement
> parts are non existant. I now model late 60?s, 70?s and 80?s. There is so
> much-much more offered/available. I would NOT buy any boxcars, but would
> buy multible hoppers if they fit my era. If the modeling committee wants to
> do a project then correct the lettering diagham on the BLI H2a hoppers
> which I am told is incorrect.Just my 2 cents.Stephen RineairMember
> 072??From: NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-ListSent: Tuesday, July 23,
> 2024 6:58 AMTo: NW Modeling ListCc: NW Modeling ListSubject:
> Re: Era?There may be more models out there than we realize for that time
> frame. Just recently I saw advertisements for?N&W/NS G72 pipe gondolas from
> Bridge Line Design, N&W G-12 and CS-4 gondolas from Plate C Model
> Prototypes, and N&W?F20 flat cars with and without Mack cabs as a load from
> Scale 3d Productions. While not N&W there'a also a new model for the
> Southern radio control cars from that timeframe.??I suspect as times goes
> on the 60s, 70s, and 80s will be a popular time to model. Personally I
> shoot for the 40s and 50s but also like stuff from the late 90s.?Brian
> DembinskiAmherst, OH??????On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 08:38:08 PM EDT, NW
> Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote: ?????I don't know who
> called Ed a show off.? But (don't panic guys; I'm still doing Virginian in
> 1956)he has supported what I and some others have been saying; for the
> Society to stay afloat and even get larger, and to keep up with our
> mission, we need to do more for the modelers doing N&W post 19
> 64 and NS.? Love A's and Y's and J's but we need to be more mindful of our
> future.??Frank Bongiovanni??On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 4:18?PM NW Modeling
> List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:> Show off. .
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