[game_preservation] AMAZING collection of E3 '95 videos!

[Simon Carless]

Hey folks,

This is in no way an official legal opinion, but my own yardstick is that
free promotional videos for games are acceptable - things originally given
out to press or consumers promote the game. The things which are trickier
are things like recorded off TV shows for which rights of the program
creator have not been checked, etc.

So far, me and Andrew have been handling Internet Archive rights by asking
the permission of the apparent owner/storer of the data and/or the
interviewer (Fileshack and Kikizo) - which is working fairly well. But we
have some 'B-roll' promo footage up there that was simply encoded by us, and
similarly for trailers.

So I think the majority of your videos would be fine, Jim - contact me and
I'll get you admin rights for the Archive upload if you want.

On this front, if there's anyone on the list who would like to help
contribute to the Game Videos section there:

http://www.archive.org/details/gamevideos

...it really is the only independent, non-profit owned archive right now and
there are no file size limits, so you don't get YouTube-style detail
reduction issues in the original source material. The Speed Demos Archive,
Henry's machinima archive, and some new Commodore 64 game captures are some
of the highlights of the collection thus far, and I'm talking to some folks
off-list about another exciting new collection.

Thanks!
Simon.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Andrew Armstrong <andrew at aarmstrong.org>
wrote:


> Great videos Devin, I'll add it to the list and put a post up. Let us

> know if he gets back to you. (In fact, I mean to email or contact tons

> of youtube people to see if they want a permanent download location at

> the archive, since they do walkthroughs or tons of in-game stuff and

> that would be good to have as well).

>

> And Jim; while Henry or Simon might be more inclined to know the legal

> side, if they are promotional material there is likely no real big

> problem with uploading the material - for instance, currently I have

> been uploading a huge amount of Fileshack videos (currently

> concentrating on any "interviews") which mainly means that Fileshack is

> the source for the marketing material (for many developers and

> publishers which have now shut down!), so causes no issues of borrowing

> a watermarked video (which Fileshack doesn't do anyway).

>

> We don't however put up the videos under any licence - it's assumed we

> don't have permission for putting it under the Creative Commons,

> therefore, it's for self-use/educational/research purposes mainly.

>

> I certainly presume if they are old videos, simply no one will really

> care (if the companies which produce them exist at all nowdays) - and as

> we know, the biggest barrier currently to fleshing out things like the

> archive's video collection is pure apathy and ignorance, right?

>

> Anyway, perhaps, Henry or Simon can chip in with an opinion :)

>

> Andrew

>

> Jim Leonard wrote:

> > Captain Commando wrote:

> >> I highly recommend adding this to the resource list. I have also sent

> >> him a message through YouTube asking if he would be interested in

> >> donating videos to the SIG.

> >

> > This reminds me, I have a lot of videos I've been collecting about the

> > making of certain games (digital interviews on early "ezines",

> > videotapes that came with products such as the WC3 filmcan and 7th

> > guest, early promotional videos from Sierra that feature the

> > programmers, etc.) and was wondering what the legal ramifications were

> > to contribute them somewhere.  The historical significance is a given;

> > it's the legal issues that have stopped me.  I thought of uploading

> > them to archive.org but I don't feel their fair use rights (education,

> > reference, etc.) would be as protected there as, for example, the SIG.

> > Is this something the SIG could receive and host to the public?

> >

> > With my experience doing restoration work on the MindCandy DVDs, I've

> > gotten really good at making them presentable (even the 15fps

> > sub-Youtube ones) so it's a project without a destination...

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