[LEAPSECS] Straw men
    Rob Seaman 
    seaman at noao.edu
       
    Tue Jan 10 01:31:57 EST 2012
    
    
  
As you point out, this is an approximation not a definition of a fundamental concept.  The synodic day is good from now until the Earth melts.  It is the difference between the rotational period of a planet and its day.  See, for instance: http://cseligman.com/text/sky/rotationvsday.htm
I also appreciated Markus's suggestion.
Rob
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On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
>> Warner Losh wrote:
>>> It is only one possible definition, not the only one.  That makes it a belief, not a mathematical identity.
>> 
>> Alternate definition?
> 
> A SI second is defined by BIPM.
> 
> Everybody knows that minutes have 60 seconds, hours have 60 minutes and days have 24 hours.  Make that with SI seconds and you have the basis of the definition of a day: 86400 SI seconds.  This is the "elapsed time" definition of a day, not an astronomical definition.  It is an approximation of the astronomical definition, much in the same way that an SI second is an approximation of a second based on earth orientation.  Pick an epoch in the 1950's and call it TAI and we have something with a 60 year track record, which is more than you can say for the current UTC :)
> 
> Too bad the ITU thing doesn't include the 36 second delta for safety...
> 
> Warner
    
    
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