Off topic: Send it off-list (was: let's see what the app store says)

Allan Odgaard 1EDF4D33-D1B1-4C97-A393-3D2B4EE5E095+Markdown at uuid-mail.com
Mon Nov 21 15:12:11 EST 2011


If you find someone’s post(s) inappropriate then tell them in private!

I realize the irony in sending this to the list, but this isn’t the
first thread with a dozen posts just bikcering about non-markdown
related stuff.



On 21 Nov 2011, at 21:00, Christian Sciberras wrote:


> Yay! Never mind trolls, let's all burn Apple haters!

>

> Oh I know, while at it, let's all start posting at disjointed threads

> too.

>

> Who cares about flooding mailboxes, just ignore an email or two, no?

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> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Humiston

> <tom at jumpingrock.net>wrote:

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>> Never mind, I found the link.

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>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Humiston wrote:

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>>> Does this list have a moderator?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:

>>>

>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:22:25 +0100

>>>> Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> He's been called a troll several times before, what make his Apple

>>>>> propagandist remarks any better now?

>>>>>

>>>>> Or is it that there's too much Apple fanboys to let it pass

>>>>> through,

>>>>> hmm?

>>>>

>>>> Apple may be a religion to some, but it's also the manufacturer of

>>>> one

>>>> of the arguably most popular platforms in existence today. For a

>>>> mailing

>>>> list devoted to Markdown, talking about its adoption on that

>>>> platform

>>>> seems pretty on-topic.

>>>> --

>>>> Chad Nelson

>>>> Oak Circle Software, Inc.

>>>> *

>>>> *

>>>> *

>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Alan Hogan <alanhogan at gmail.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> I also find it quite a stretch to call Bowerbird a troll! Usually

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> worst you could call him is "opinionated" and "too frequent a

>>>>>> poster

>>>>>> for some tastes."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I found his App Store updates interesting.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your vitriol adds nothing.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I bet if we all got together and had a couple drinks, there'd be

>>>>>> none of this silly name-calling.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Christian Sciberras

>>>>>> <uuf6429 at gmail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yeah, it would be ironic of trolls to call each other "troll".

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sherwood Botsford

>>>>>> <sgbotsford at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't see the Bowerbird's post as a troll. I found it

>>>>>>> informative. Until I read that I didn't realize that there were

>>>>>>> *ANY* other markdown like front ends other than the one that

>>>>>>> Fletcher was working on.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mind you it's not a discussion I've followed with care. My text

>>>>>>> editor of choice is vim.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Respectfully,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sherwood of Sherwood's Forests

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sherwood Botsford

>>>>>>> Sherwood's Forests -- http://Sherwoods-Forests.com

>>>>>>> 780-848-2548

>>>>>>> 50042 Range Rd 31

>>>>>>> Warburg, Alberta T0C 2T0

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Christian Sciberras

>>>>>>> <uuf6429 at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'm sure the world will dearly mourn the failures of

>>>>>>>> markdown-based

>>>>>>>> crAppStore apps.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Now go troll somewhere else, kid.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36 PM, <Bowerbird at aol.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "multimarkdown composer" has been out for 4 weeks now,

>>>>>>>>> so let's mosey on over to the app store to see what it says...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "composer" is #184 in productivity apps, a bit disappointing,

>>>>>>>>> considering that it was in the top-20 when it first came

>>>>>>>>> out...

>>>>>>>>> it's gained only 5 reviews over the 18 it had right off the

>>>>>>>>> bat.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> perhaps even more surprising, to some, is that "marked" is

>>>>>>>>> at #356 in productivity apps, which is a solid indication that

>>>>>>>>> the editing+display coupling produced by "composer" trumps

>>>>>>>>> the use-any-text-editor-you-like generality "marked" offers.

>>>>>>>>> (note also that "marked" is even at a much lower price-point.)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> and maybe the biggest surprise of all, to some, is the newish

>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote", which appears at #115 in productivity apps.

>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" has been available on ipad for a while, and

>>>>>>>>> is something of an enigma. its big liability is that it

>>>>>>>>> supports

>>>>>>>>> nothing more than gruber's flawed formulation, but its asset

>>>>>>>>> is that it has the edit-on-one-side-with-display-on-the-other

>>>>>>>>> basic interface which i consider to be vital for this type of

>>>>>>>>> app.

>>>>>>>>> (you might recall that fletcher disagrees with me on this

>>>>>>>>> point.)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" pulls off this _simple_interface_ better than

>>>>>>>>> any other app i've found so far, which might well help explain

>>>>>>>>> its good ranking, as there's little else of note in its

>>>>>>>>> feature-set.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ***

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> one other finding of significance is that a search for

>>>>>>>>> "markdown"

>>>>>>>>> returns 9 app-store hits now, revealing new high price-points

>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>> $10 ("markdown pro"), $20 ("ulysses") and $25 ("markmywords".)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> -bowerbird

>>>>

>>>>

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