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Thanx 4 the update. News and speed always take precedence over preservation
in the news biz -- at least at the newspapers where I've worked. I ended up
with a couple of Richard Prince's books after a friend retrieved them from
the newspaper "morgue's" trashbin in another city.
sounds like what I've known to happen to photo negatives at newspapers.
Andre Jackson and/or Lisa Burrows
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Subject: Re: Today Show
> Even thought this is way off topic, I thought I would pass a little more
> on, as there is a bit to think about.
> Video tape was a rarity in those days, shows were more often recorded on
> kinescopes. Even if it had been video tapes, the chance of the tape still
> being playable, much less having a machine working to play it on would be
> pretty unlikely. I suspect such a show would have had little interest
> beyond its original broadcast, and probably was trashed many years back,
> if it was even NBC's policy to record each show.
> My experience with Channel 7 in Roanoke was the 1980s and early 1990s.
> All news was shot on film up until probably about 1977-78, that was when
> the switch to video tape. However, there was an entire collection of news
> film, day by day, stored in the basement. More or less, this film dated
> from when the station first went on the air in October 1955. Sometime in
> the mid 1980s, it was decided to transfer this film to tape, 3/4 inch
> tape, which is terrible archive material. Most of the early film was
> transferred, through our terrible condition film chain, recorded on this
> tape and shot sheeted then hung in a rack in the news edit room. They
> were not transferred in any systematic method, therefore you might find a
> 1964 story on the same tape as a 1957 story, not related in subject
> matter, just transferred as material was needed. In 1985, we were putting
> together promos for the 30th anniversary of the station, and I spent
> quite a bit of time going through tapes. Of course, most all was shot as
> b/w at least until the late 1960s. I found a bunch of interesting stuff,
> railroad related, but the kicker is, the 3/4 tapes were already showing
> wear and tear with drop outs, and glitches. After only a few years of
> Now the real gotcha on this is, after all that film was (poorly)
> transferred, the original film was taken back to the processor and
> stripped for silver recovery, so once those 3/4 inch tapes are useless,
> the film is gone. The last time I asked a friend at the station about 3/4
> inch machines, she said they had one still working, but only barely, and
> that was 3 years ago. When the station moved, most of the remaining film
> was given to the History Museum, I believe. However, virtually all the
> early stuff was gone by then.
> So my point is, this was a local station, the news film was racks and
> racks in the basement, imagine the size of an operation like NBC, it
> would take warehouses of space to keep all the old film and tape. I would
> suspect that anything this insignificant was likely long since discarded.
> Ken Miller
> On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:05 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> Yep, the latter point was what I meant. Wonder if the master tape still
>> exists, and if there's a railfan at network HQ? A society letter might
>> provide an interesting archives exhibit.
>> Andre Jackson (college TV-radio minor)
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>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: Today Show
>>> I don't believe any railfans could afford video recording equipment in
>>> the 1950s. Most folks in those days were doing good to buy one of those
>>> new B&W TV consoles.
>>> Still, I wonder what it would take to get the network to make a copy of
>>> the show from their video archives, assuming the footage was recorded
>>> and is still playable.
>>> Ron Davis
>>> At 11:11 PM 3/31/2007, you wrote:
>>>> Anybody unearthed a tape of this event?
>>>> Andre Jackson and/or Lisa Burrows
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>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:54 PM
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>>>>> The Today show broadcast from Roanoke on May 15-16, 1958. There was
>>>>> an interview segment with Stuart Saunders standing next to the
>>>>> Pocahontas, and a filmed (not live) segment riding the cab of the J
>>>>> between Roanoke and Bedford. There was a two page article in the June
>>>>> 1958 N&W Magazine. pages 344-345.
>>>>> Having worked in the television business for 11 years, The first
>>>>> satellite to orbit the earth was Sputnik in October 1957, just about
>>>>> 7 months prior to this broadcast. As I recall, it was capable of
>>>>> broadcasting a "beep" tone every few seconds during its orbit.
>>>>> Satellite television broadcasting did not originate until sometime in
>>>>> 1962, when Telstar was launched to become the first television
>>>>> broadcast satellite. Live broadcasting in those days was a
>>>>> considerable technical feat with a small scale broadcast truck at the
>>>>> site. Satellite or microwave broadcasting that is common today was
>>>>> unheard of in 1958.
>>>>> Ken Miller
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