NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 23, Issue 12

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Tue Nov 6 09:54:15 EST 2007


My deepest apologies on my confusion concerning the "color guide". After looking at the message again I see that it "Jerry" wrote the original message I was responding to. Thanks for clearing up the renumbering. Do you by any chance know what the cross reference is between new and old numbers? Thanks for your help!

Rodney



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Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:13:14 -0600
From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: N&W Postal Car No. 160
To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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Rodney: I have not made any referencxe to the "Color Guide" March 1967
is obviously too early for N&W 160. But look at the "Wabash" cars. It is
not under "postal" cars. 451 to 456 are listed as Baggage & Mail with a
30' RPO. N&W rebuilt it to 60', making it a postal car and gave in
number 160. Jim Nichols

NW Mailing List wrote:


> My copy of "The Official Register of Passenger Train Equipment"

> for March 1967 does not show an active car numbered 160. In the "N&W"

> section they list Postal Cars with the ranges of 90 to 98 and 162 to

> 179. The 'Wabash" section shows postal cars with the range of 167 to

> 179. Did they change the number when it was rebuilt?

>

> Also, Jim could you please tell me what "color guide" you are

> referencing. I have a copy of the "Norfolk and Western Color Guide to

> Freight and Passenger Cars" but I didn't see what you were talking

> about in it.

>

> Rodney

>

>

> Message: 3

> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:22 -0500

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org

> <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>

> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967

> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org

> <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>

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>

> Right you are, Jim!

>

> I stand corrected.

>

> EdK

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: NW Mailing List

> To: NW Mailing List

> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:00 AM

> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967

>

>

>

> Ed: Show me an RPO with a star!! They didn't need them. No, this is

> an active car. The 1967 rebuilding changed a 30' mail apartment into a

> 60' apartment. It is an ex Wabash car, not Frisco. Jim Nichols

>

> Neither is a star on the car, indicating it's not to be occupied

> account no toilet facilities. . .

>

> EdKing

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: NW Mailing List

> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:40 PM

> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967

>

>

> >Further, N&W had sold a RPO to the Florida East Coast Railway

> at that time, so it's unclear why it sold a car then turned around and

> bought a similar one.

>

> My understanding is that the cars sold to FEC went circa 1960 -

> 1961, returning to the N&W 1966, according to the "N&W Color Guide".

>

> Also, it is worth noting that the mailbag hooks are not on the

> car, so the car likely was being used for either storage mail or

> package service. Thanks for sharing that shot... I had no idea such a

> transaction had occurred.

>

>

>

> jerry

>

>

>

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