Publishing

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Sat Jan 5 06:47:23 EST 2013


Having an editor WITH FRESH EYES is a real luxury . . . especially as
you get older and your brain, eyes, and keyboard don't always stay in
sync. What gets interesting is when you are paraphrasing and the
auto-editing program wants to change the author's original words to
"modern" spellings. I am afraid to re-read some of my stuff. Love
getting a note saying I am stand right were you describe it to be
with my eyes on its ruins a half a mile over in the incorporated part
of the town.


However, we need to stay focused on getting the fact correct as we
can. I had multiple locals swear they knew were x-was, or it was
last used in 19XX, etc. and photo proves them "slightly off."


Thanks for taking your time to write down what you have found. Many
do the research but only a few take the grief and time to publish.


Al Kresse


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>Message: 1

>Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:50:41 -0600 (CST)

>From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

>Subject: Re: RE: Publishing

>To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org

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>Alex,

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>This is true in acedemic writing and publishing. For both my wife's

>and my Masters papers, it depended on who was reading them and what

>checker was used the corrections that were asked for. Now that I am

>puruing my Doctorate, the differences are even more varied, even

>between the english teachers I have check the papers at the high

>school I work at. Technical papers are the worst because of the

>particular nuances for each specialty. What is proper grammer in

>one discipline is wrong in another. I default to APA but that does

>not work for books, so I would rely on what an editor decides. As

>for any percived errors, unless there is absolute proof, the author is correct.

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>Kurt s. Kramke

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>On 01/03/13, NW Mailing List wrote:

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>Kim,

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>First, with both spelling and grammar, copy editors have different

>approaches as to what is correct and I have had one professional

>copy editor making changes to another professional copy editors work

>with respect to grammar. Typos are generally easier to deal with but

>sometimes it depends on the style guide being used. Word/publishing

>programs will highlight questionable words or phrases, but you then

>have to decide how to proceed. As an example I spell coalfield as

>one word where many publications will spell it as two words. Another

>example is state names. I used to use post offices abbreviations

>such as WV for West Virginia and the copy editor agreed with it.

>However the Associated Press Style Book says not to use them, but it

>is ok to use W.Va., but in some circumstances you should use the

>full state name. Rather than trying to remember all of the rules for

>state?s names (there are eight you never abbreviate) I now simply

>spell out the entire name.

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>Another example is some copy editors use No. 1948 without a space,

>or No.1948. I have done it both ways, but generally stick with the

>space between No. and the numerals as recommended by the style

>guide. You are supposed to spell out numbers one through nine and

>start using numerals at 10, but it is ok to use numerals such as 1,

>2,3 etc. under some circumstances. So there is some latitude in what you do.

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>Hyphenation can be an issue and you have to deal with the issue of

>dash, en dash and em dash and non-breaking space which takes you

>back into grammar issues. Software programs will normally highlight

>every hyphenated word/phrase as an issue, but doesn?t offer advice

>on how to proceed. I have had one copy editor use a dash, en dash

>and em dash in the same sentence. As an example MP I-19+3458 which

>the N&W used on some documents and MP I-19.65 on others. In most of

>the writing we attempt to be consistent with N&W nomenclature.

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>Many graphic artists work in pica points whereas I work in decimal

>points. That affects some perceived grammar issues such as paragraph

>indentation. Some copy editors prefer to indent the first paragraph

>of a new section, others don?t and start indentation at the second

>paragraph. There is the question of how much space between a heading

>and the first paragraph. Depending on the line space that can add

>one or two pages to a chapter which can add any multiple of pages to

>a book which then adds to the cost of a book. Sometimes you make

>choices that are questionable, such as abbreviating Company as Co.

>in a heading in order to save space.

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>So the short answer is software programs will highlight words and

>phrases that should be looked at, but the author/copy editor must

>decide how to proceed. On the other hand sometimes you just miss

>stuff even though you have been over a page multiple times. Errors

>are easier to spot once a book or article is printed.

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>Alex Schust




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