World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power Production

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Yes of course they were. Pardon my stone fingers. Dave, you were long gone by the time I arrived there from the USAEOCR in Ft. Belvoir having been branch transferred to TC and the 714th after completing TOAC. Myself and fellow graduate of 22H69 in August '69 Chuck Engleberger, were assigned to HHC and Charlie respectively. Nice to spend two years in the States - he and I both went to RVN. The failure was in the winter of 70, February if I remember right.
And attached for your appreciation is #607 coming over the trestle with the James River in the background (photo by SP4 Lawrence Rundle, 27 Jan 70) with the "kiddie train" in tow (you remember those, right?). The TC OCR was closed by the time I got there.....
I have the builder's plate from one of the diesels but the bells and plates from the steamers disappeared pretty quickly.

Ed Svitil

Norfolk & Western Railway

Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:13:35 -0400
Subject: Re: World War II Steam Locomotive Query: Stationary Power Production
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The 714th's steamers were 2-8-0s of WWII vintage. I had TC OCS there
'66-'67 then was stationed there for my two years active duty '67-'69. I
don't remember the steam plant failure so I assume it was after I was "promoted
to civilian" in May of '69.

Dave Phelps

In a message dated 10/23/2013 3:56:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I can
tell you that while at Ft Eustis from 69-70 we had a steam plant failure
and one of the 714 TBROSDE 0-8-0s was placed into service. Only
temporary but the engine had to be idled due to build up in the firebox.
Chocks were welded to the rails and the steam lines were hoses, not
pipes. I will forward this question to one of my former LTs in C

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Hello All,

I have a steam locomotive history question that I hope one
or more of you can answer for a World War II model railroading project I am
engaged in. In addition, I am generally interested in this question from a
history of technology standpoint. There were a number of N&W locomotives
used during the war as stationary steam units for industrial power use when
plant construction schedules and war needs overlapped. In a number of cases
large articulated units were used to bring plants online before onsite power
plants were finished because of wartime expediency. Mason Cooper mentions this
in his book on the Shenandoah Division and has a few photos. My question, from
a modeling standpoint, is how were such locomotives secured to the track for
long periods? Were wheel sets chocked or the united attached to the ground in
some manner? The last time I was down at the archives I meant to search for
photographs but forgot and may try later in the year.

I am building either a chemical or pharmaceutical plant and
plan to have one locomotive in the foreground providing steam through a
pipeline system although I have been wondering about how the locomotive was
secured. Any thoughts or anyone with previous experience with the matter would
be greatly appreciated.



Gerard J. Fitzgerald
Charlottesville, Virginia

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