2015 convention

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Fri Jul 11 14:38:54 EDT 2014


There are a few more hurdles to surmount, Andre, but we're looking at the
weekends of June 18-21 and 25-28.  We'll post anything on this list and in
the eTaf as soon as things get firmed up.  As you all know, a lot can
happen between the time we make the plans, get authorization, and get
signed contracts with hotels, venus, caterers, and bus companies.

And it was good seeing you this year.  Don't be a stranger.

Frank Bongiovanni


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:06 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Thanks, Nathan for the 2015 convention date!
>
> Andre Jackson
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>   1. RE: Late 40's re-alignment on Elkhorn grade (NW Mailing List)
>   2. seeking information about Abingdon Branch (NW Mailing List)
>   3. 2015 Convention? (NW Mailing List)
>   4. Re: 2015 Convention? (NW Mailing List)
>   5. Re: Crewe, VA (NW Mailing List)
>   6. "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
>       (NW Mailing List)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:18:17 -0400
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "'NW Mailing List'" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: Late 40's re-alignment on Elkhorn grade
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> Also, Bucky Wilson cover the changes on the Elkhorn Summit in the ARROW in
> a series of articles.  The short answer is that the N&W moved the track
> from the east side of the ?gulch? on either side of the tunnel , to the
> west to get the lower summit and bore the tunnel under and to the west of
> the original tunnel bore.  So, for instance, the new bridge at Maybeury is
> on a different and lower grade.  There are some good photos of the old
> alignment and some of the early changes in August Theime?s book, too.
>
> Gary Rolih Cincinnati
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:11 AM
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> Subject: RE: Late 40's re-alignment on Elkhorn grade
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> There were multiple N&W Employee Magazine articles on the Elkhorn
> Tunnel/Elkhorn Grade realignment. ? January 1948, November 1951, March 1952
> and other around the same time period.
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> The old bridge at Landgraff served the coal mine, The main line was
> constructed on the opposite side of Elkhorn Creek (or at least was by 1904).
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> Page 71 of ?Billion Dollar Coalfield? (available from Commissary)
> photographs indicates old alignment and new alignment at Maybeury in
> 1949/1950. Mines in Barlow Hollow closed in 1944 and N&W removed tracks in
> 1945. Pg 80 of book shows new alignment in Barlow Hollow at location of
> former mine tipple.
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> You can see a photo of main line going through Kyle on pg 107 of book.
> There were multiple changes to Elkhorn Creek during realignment.
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> During the realignment the switch for the Angle Branch was moved to the
> opposite side of the main line and came down to Maybeury on the north side
> of the new bridge. Pg 90 of book shows original  alignment of Angle Branch.
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> The power plant received coal directly from Delta Coal Mine. Originally
> there was no siding associated with power plant. A siding was built at some
> point to either bring new equipment for substation at power plant or during
> the realignment construction. I think it is still in place.
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> Alex Schust
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:25 AM
> To: NW Mailing List
> Subject: Late 40's re-alignment on Elkhorn grade
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> In preparation for discontinuing electric operations with the opening of
> the new Elkhorn tunnel in 1950, several miles on the heavy grade were
> re-aligned to reduce curvature and rise.  I have read at least one article
> (may have been in Railway Age) giving an overview of this work that spanned
> several years showing a few pictures/diagrams of a few of the places where
> new cuts were made, bridges eliminated, etc.  I would like to get more
> detailed information and/or photos of exactly what changes were made during
> this project e.g. creek re-routings, U.S. 52 re-routings, all the places
> where the line was relocated, any sidings/branches that were eliminated,
> etc. etc.  There is an old bridge at Landgraff on the opposite side of 52
> from the present main that I assume was left from when the main was over
> there.  Also, down in Kyle bottom there are footers standing in someones
> front yard that again look like evidence of the old alignment.  I am
> especially interested in the changes at Switchb
> ack/Maybeury associated with new bridge and side swap up Barlow hollow.
> It is still barely possible to see slide fence remnants (vertical rail
> segments) through the leaves/kudzoo to the North side of the present main
> near Switchback.  I assume the old main would have hugged the hill and been
> right next to this slide fence as it climbed past the power plant on its
> way to the old trestle.  I assume the Angel Branch would have left the main
> at some point along here, but would sure like to know exactly where.  Also,
> was there a siding associated with the power plant?
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> Any information on this transformation will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Cochran
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> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:21:40 -0400
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> Subject: seeking information about Abingdon Branch
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> Next month the Green Cove Station on the Virginia Creeper Trail will
> be 100 years old. It is the only existing station of the former
> Abingdon Branch of the Norfolk and Western Railroad. It is now a
> visitor's center and small museum with some of Winston Link's prints
> and other artifacts of the steam era.
>
> I took several pictures in March 1977 of the last few runs of the
> Virginia Creeper, but did not record names and dates. I am trying to
> find the names of the engineers and brakemen, the numbers of the
> engines, and the dates of each of the last six runs on the Abingdon
> Branch. These are diesel engines and there was no passenger service
> at that time.
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> If you can help me with this information or direct me to someone who
> has it, I would appreciate it.  Thanks.
>
> Mike Smith
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> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 19:55:14 -0700
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> To: "nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Hi:<br/>Had to leave convention early, so I missed business meeting, where
> presumably next year's site was announced? Please advise of
> location.<br/>Thanks,<br/><br/>Andre Jackson<br/>Atlanta, GA.<br/>Sent from
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> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 7:11:19 -0500
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> Andre the next convention for 2015 is suppose to be in Marion, Ohio
> Nathan Robinette
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> > Hi:<br/>Had to leave convention early, so I missed business meeting,
> where presumably next year's site was announced? Please advise of
> location.<br/>Thanks,<br/><br/>Andre Jackson<br/>Atlanta, GA.<br/>Sent from
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> Subject: Re: Crewe, VA
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> Jonah:
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> There are several of our members that have resided
> in Crewe. I'm not sure what you're looking for regarding
> Crewe.  Not so any more, but in the mid-50s, Crewe was
> Norfolk Division headquarters.  The Superintendent
> lived in a company-owned residence (as did Super-
> intendents on other divisions).  Crews from Roanoke
> laid over at the YMCA.  Not anymore-- they're put up at
> a motel.  The supermarket in Crewe closed several years
> ago and residents have to travel to Victoria's Food Lion
> or to Richmond to get groceries.  While there's no
> grocery store in Crewe, there is an alphabet store
> (read ABC).                              Harry Bundy
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> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
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> Last night I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with six of the Brethren
> and Friends of the Virginian Railway.  I told the Brethren about an inquiry
> from our old friend Abe Burnett asking we any knew the first name of VGN
> Engineer "Hustle-Bubble" Mattingly.  None could remember what the "J. L."
> stood for. ( I found him on the seniority list as "J. L." Mattingly,
> Fireman 11-21-41 and Engineer 2-5-47).  Abe sent an ad from during WWII
> showing where the "hustle-bubble" came from:  "Save clothes in wartime!
> Just think! Ounce for ounce, Oxydol's new "Hustle-Bubble" suds are much
> richer in washing power than before."  Wis Sowder remembered when he was
> not present, he was called "Bottle-Ass" but he was one of the "smoothest
> Engineers on the line.  He could pull a coal train out of the yard when
> other Engineers had problems."
>
>
> Landon Gregory brought his H. Reid Award, presented to him by the N&W (and
> VGN) Historical Society at their Convention to show the Brethren.  I also
> showed the Brethren a thank you letter sent by Ron Davis, President of the
> Society giving a large donation to the Roanoke Chapter NRHS (owner of
> restoration) and stating:Skip and his program at the Virginian Station were
> well received.  Attendees appreciated meeting the Virginian Brethren after
> reading about them in Skip's's "Takin' Twenty".
>
>
> I passed around a photo of Mike Shockley of Peoria, IL holding his HO model
> of the "JK" tower with the real one in the background of the photos.  I
> have posted it on this site under "Skip's Photos".
>
>
> No one got the right animal track that Opie drew on the ground and scared
> Barnie.  It was an elephant track.  So this week's question  for the pin
> is:  What is the name of the legendary silver carp in Tucker's Lake?  Send
> your answer and your mailing address to gkholine at cox.net
>
>
> Also passed around was my latest ebay purchase:  Virginian Railway Company
> passenger traffic department local passenger tariff P-2049-B.  This booklet
> shows fares for coach and parlor cars to all points on the VGN.  Wis Sowder
> remembered using it to find the 24 cent fare from Altavista to Leesville
> when he served as a Clerk there.  He said on Saturdays, many persons would
> ride six miles back to Leesville after a day of shopping.  I plan to enter
> a copy of  this book into the N&W HS Archives and have it on display at the
> Station upon restoration.  I had in my briefcase a copy of Sam R.
> Pennington's 1933 "Virginian Railway Feature with historical and
> biographical listings of VGN officials.  Landon Gregory found T. A. Wooding
> the man who hired him.  Wis Sowder and Raymond East also remembered many of
> the officials whose bios are in the book.
>
>
> Then there's this from VGN Clerk Bob Glass:  In a crowded city at a busy
> bus stop, a woman who was waiting for a bus was wearing a tight leather
> skirt.  As the bus stopped, she became aware that her skirt was too tight
> to allow her leg to come up to the height of the first step of the bus.
> Slightly embarrassed and with a quick smile to the bus driver, she reached
> behind her to unzip her skirt a little, thinking this would give her enough
> slack to raise her leg.  Again she tried to make the step only to discover
> she still couldn't.  So she once again reached behind her to unzip her
> skirt a little more.  For the second time she attempted the step and once
> again she could not raise her leg.  She reached behind to unzip a little
> more and  again was unable to make the step.  About this time, a large
> Texan who was standing behind her picked her up easily by the waist and
> placed her gently on the step of the bus.  She went ballistic and turned to
> the would-be Samaritan and screeched "How dare you touch me!  I don't even
> know who you are!"  The Texan smiled and drawled, "Well ma'am, normally I
> would agree with you, but after you unzipped my fly three times, I kinda
> figured we was friends."
>
>
> Time to pull the pin on this one!
>
>
> Departing Now from V248,
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> Skip Salmon
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