Second Class Stations

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It appears to me that the relatively uniform "combination" stations were 
also known as "second class" stations, and that "first class" stations 
in more urban areas were often of varied designs.

The "combination" freight and passenger stations I believe were of a 
standard floor plan design, commonly seen in N&W literature, though of 
variable  l//h exterior dimensions.  On my Vinton to Bedford, VA pike, 
from photographic comparisons I was able to deduce approximate 
station-by-station external dimensions, working from the base drawings 
cited as Blue Ridge in Wallace and Wiley's /Norfolk and Western 
Handbook/,//W-W Publications, 1980, p. 106 (attention:  contents have 
their critics!),  along with the p. 19 diagram in Brewer and Dressler's 
/Norfolk and Western Railway Standards Drawings, /N&WHS, 1992.  From the 
cited diagrams I concluded that the external Blue Ridge f/b and end wall 
dimensions were approximately 70' in length and 24' in width.  With that 
base template I could redimension the other combination stations as 
seemed reasonable by photographic comparison.

I had to rely upon photographs for external particulars station by 
station (loading dock configurations, roofing details and truck loading 
buffer locations).  Most importantly, careful note must be taken as to 
which end includes the freight room, relative to the protruding 
telegrapher's office, station by station.  Not all the same!

For further discussion see my p. 37  station alignment "box" in the 
/Arrow, /v. 30 (2014), n. 1.

Frank Gibson

On 11/14/2014 09:19 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> Jimmy,
> There are not many station drawings for all of the reasons you list 
> and more.
> One thing to understand is that most stations were constructed using a 
> number of standard designs.
> The station at Farmville, VA is notable in that it was the first of a 
> family of First Class stations all built to a standard design. The 
> drawings for the Farmville station were also used for a number of 
> other stations such as Luray and Charlestown, WV.
> There is also a set of drawings for Second Class stations that were 
> built at smaller towns.
> The same standard drawings would be used to show basic design and 
> construction methods to be used. Based on traffic at a given station, 
> the freight and passenger areas would be enlarged or reduced from the 
> "standard" size to match the demand.
> Archives link to first class stations
> Archives link to second class stations
> These were not the only standard designs used for stations on the N&W.
> So to answer your question, there is not a set of drawings for the 
> Marion station specifically as it was built from a set of standard 
> drawings that were used for many stations using that same design.
> Ron Davis
> At 02:50 PM 11/11/2014, you wrote:
>> While passing through Marion, Va. recently, I noticed the passenger 
>> station right off of Main St. What a beautiful station that is! 
>> Searching the archives turns up but one photo and no elevation 
>> drawings. This would be a nice station to model if one only had some 
>> plans. This is not the only station that there seems to be no plans 
>> available. Which brings me to the question, are the station plans in 
>> the archives and just haven't been cataloged or do they exist and we 
>> don't know where they are or are station plans something we just 
>> don't have and are lost forever?
>> Jimmy Lisle
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