Powhatan Arrow

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Mon Aug 17 18:17:43 EDT 2015


Every car had brackets rather high on each end, and the markers were placed in the brackets on the rear of the last car in the train. This was done by hand.
Jim Nichols 


     On Monday, August 17, 2015 1:39 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
   

 No end of train devise. In those days, they still used marker lights, so they just shifted them to the diner. BTW: The observation did not have built-in markers anyway, so nothing really changed - just one less car to maintain. They put lounge seats in the end of the diner.
Jim Nichols 


     On Monday, August 17, 2015 11:09 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
   

 EOTs or End of Train Device is a relatively modern development, and did not come to Norfolk Southern until sometime in the 1980s. Only after elimination of Virginia's "Caboose Law" in 1988 did they become systemwide.
The only end of train device a passenger train of that era might have had would be a hose connected to the brake line that had a whistle/brake valve to control any kind of back up move.
Ken Miller
On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:42 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

When the observations came off, was there an end of train device attached? Walter DavisYoungsville NC From: NW Mailing List Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 3:20 PMTo: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: Powhatan Arrow From about 1951 to 1956, those five cars would have been the normal consist, as follows: either 501 or 502, vestibule at back, 511 or 512, vestibule at back, a 531 series coach, vestibule probably to front, diner, with kitchen in either direction, observation car. From late 1949 to about 1951, there were 7 cars (2 extra 531 series coaches) and the diner was closer to the center of the train. About 1951, due to poor ridership, the consist was reduced to 5 cars and the diner was placed next to the observation, which served food and drink in its tavern lounge. In 1956, the 501 and 502 were replaced by rebuilt heavyweight combines and they were rebuilt into full coaches. In 1958 the observations were taken off.
Jim Nichols


 


 
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