Domestic coal onesy-twosy

NW Mailing List nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Thu Mar 16 09:03:34 EDT 2017


I wonder what the daily demurrage charge was back then.

     WJPowers



On 3/16/2017 7:04 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> For what it's worth, my parents ran 'Akers Coal and Feed' business in 
> Rural Retreat in the 1945 to 1954 time frame. Mom would buy a full 
> carload from someone (?) that would then be delivered and parked on 
> the southwest side track between the Depot and Baumgardner Avenue, and 
> there it would sit until all the coal had been delivered to small 
> residential and business customers around the west end of Wythe 
> County. I recall watching them open up the bottom doors sequentially 
> as needed, and letting the coal spill out onto the track. They would 
> then load it on a pickup for deliveries of a hundred pounds or so at a 
> time, so I guess the rail car would be parked there for months at a 
> time.  I don't know who supplied the coal, but would like to know so 
> we can include it in our museum information.
> The attached photo was taken in 1949 and shows the sidetrack at the 
> bottom, leading off to the southwest. That sidetrack was later removed.
>
> Frank Akers
> THE RURAL RETREAT DEPOT FOUNDATION <http://www.theruralretreatdepot.com/>
>
> Moderator:
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> *Subject:* RE: Domestic coal onesy-twosy
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> Old Ben Coal Corporation sold coal from mines in Illinois, West 
> Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Arkansas and Oklahoma in 
> 1930. In 1946 it had dropped Western Kentucky, Arkansas and Oklahoma 
> mines, but added two Virginia mines. (Dixiana, Virginia shipping coal 
> from the Taggart No. 5 seam and Patterson, Virginia shipping coal from 
> the Cary Seam on the Dismal Creek Branch.)
> The General Office was in Chicago, but the company had regional sales 
> offices in St. Louis, Minneapolis, Omaha, Kansas City, Detroit, 
> Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Norfolk. Many coal brokers also had local 
> offices in Bluefield, WV
> It had its own coal dock at Superior, Wisconsin to serve West Virginia 
> coal destined for the northwest. This appears to have been a major 
> shipping point for Glen Rogers Briquets (Briquettes) shipped from Glen 
> Rogers, WV. It used the N&W, C&O and Virginian Tidewater piers for 
> coast wide shipping.
> Attached is an old photograph from the Eastern Regional Coal Archives 
> in Bluefield, WV showing the Lynchburg Coal & Coke Company at Kyle, WV 
> with an Old Ben Coal Corporation sign. Lynchburg C&C sold its coal 
> under the trade name “F.F.V.”
> In 1946 Old Ben Coal Corporation brokered coal for 17 different mines.
> Alex Schust
> Moderator:
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> *From:*NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list- bounces at nwhs.org 
> <mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org>] *On Behalf Of *NW Mailing List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:07 PM
> *To:* nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> *Subject:* Domestic coal onesy-twosy
> On 3/14/17 11:45 AM, nw-mailing-list-request at nwhs. org 
> <mailto:nw-mailing-list-request at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>     Message: 3
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>     Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 08:26:50 -0400
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>
>           Once, nearly every town in the USA and Canada had a dealer or two
>
>     receiving carloads of coal. Can any of you explain how the coal was
>
>     handled mine to retailer? Were certain mines oriented to this trade?
>
>     Were they selling direct to coal yards or did brokers take multi-car
>
>     lots and re-sell in regional areas? (Did N&W coal make it to places like
>
>     Newfoundland and deliver on narrow gauge trucks?) Has this been covered
>
>     in one of the magazine issues?
>
> I can provide one data point. My grandfather sold coal for Old Ben 
> Coal & Coke, up and down the Valley and into western VA, by the car 
> load to large users (towns, cities, hospitals, universities, 
> industries, etc.) and by the car load and bag to retailers. The coal 
> came from Old Ben mines and he arranged shipping via N&W. It was steam 
> coal to the users specs.
>
> Bill McClure
>
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