N&W 120Ton Wreck Crane and others...

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Tue Apr 23 16:50:19 EDT 2019


Kevin,

Look up Railroad Avenue Southwest, Roanoke VA. And you will seek what you are looking for, the ex-N&W 120ton steam crane 514908. You can view it from a public road. It is parked on the Belt Line near/ just east of Akzo Nobel Coatings.

Kevin, send me an email and I'll provide you with more information off line.
"Pullmanpolo at Hotmail.com"

Steve in Roanoke Va.

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Thanks Steve. You provide some interesting updates.

As for the 514908, as I am not totally familiar with the route of the belt
line, can you provide any other location info ... like near intersection of
road A and B. I have no plans to trespass on private property but if I can
view it or take some photos it would be appreciated.

Also I have never heard of the VMT "hump yard". Any more location info
other than east of Schaffer's. Is it even furthur east of the smaller
turntable near what looks like a car servicing area. I'm guessing one could
drive down Shenandoah Avenue and might be able to notice the VGN Crane.

Thanks very much.

Kevin Byrd
Chesterfield, VA

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:00 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> The N&W 514908 (unrestored unmodified Steam Crane) is still in storage on
> the west end of the Beltline.
> To clear up some confusion, in Nov 2017 VMT scraped both the N&W 514902
> (1919 160ton model) and the N&W 514925 (late steam era 200ton model) from
> their collections in a trade effort to save the EX-VGN crane that is now
> stored with the rest of the museum's "off site" items in Roanoke's "Hump"
> yard just east of Shaffer's Crossing.
>
> Steve in Roanoke VA
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> VMT had it scrapped? The Va Museum of Transportation? I'd be quit surprised
> at that.
>
> I am pretty sure it also escaped scrapping by the Va. Scrap Iron Yard much
> like the lost engines that survived. It was only a couple of years ago, I
> believe it was dragged or lifted onto the belt line track. I have pictures
> gleaned from a from an on-line posting from somewhere. The article talked
> about rescuing it. Also had pictures of the crane sitting in the weeds at
> Va Scrap and later on the Belt Line tracks. See below.
>
> [image: N&W 120TonSteam Derrick #514908-1.jpg]
> [image: N&W_120TonSteamDerrick#514908_RightSide.jpg]
>
> The N&WHS MofW roster indicates it was still sitting  on the belt line
> tracks last summer. See link:
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nwhs.org%2Fdata%2Fmow%2Fview.php%3FID%3D1511&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3e87ca86daea4603b04108d6c825cef5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916462049594150&sdata=RZACDb5wXg7lzrgBYfcVcsiZUvffWe%2FXTllGbkrm58U%3D&reserved=0
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> I am just curious where on the belt line. I will be in town for the
> upcoming convention and planned to do some exploring and if possible take a
> few pictures. I am modeling the crane using a Tichy kit. It is built but I
> need to figure out the appropriate lettering for the early 50's. In its
> current state I am guessing the lettering is post the 50's but not sure. A
> few pictures wouldn't hurt for my archives.
>
> Kevin Byrd
> Chesterfield, VA
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:07 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > I am fairly sure that VMT had it scraped
> >
> > Larry Evans
> >
> >
> > "There's the sun, there's the moon, there's the air we breathe, and
> > there's the Rolling Stones"  Keith Richards
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> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 2:28 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I am wondering if anyone knows the whereabouts of the former N&W steam
> > powered wreck crane numbered 514908.
> >
> > It sat in the Va. Scrap Iron yard for many years until it was saved by
> the
> > Va Museum of Transportation back in 2012. It was then placed on the
> tracks
> > of the Roanoke Belt Line. It was there at least up until June 2018.
> >
> > Is it still on those tracks? Where on the Belt Line? or has it been moved
> > to another location?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kevin Byrd
> > Chesterfield, VA
> >
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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:28:32 -0400
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Subject: Re: N&W 120Ton Wreck Crane and others...
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With Steve's mention of the VGN Crane sitting in the yard east of
Shaffer's, I did a little Google Maps exploring to locate that crane.

If you bring up the street view of Shanendoah Ave and look toward the yard
as you are sitting in the middle of the intersection with 15th street, you
can make out the VGN Crane. It is sitting between two heavyweight passenger
cars of unknown vintage. One may be a mail/baggage car ... FYI, I don't
"spot" them very well  and don't discern them without a little reference
look up.

All of the old equipment sitting around the crane does indicate this could
be a VMT "extra" storage area.

Now that we have established VMT did not give up 514908 for scrap in return
for the VGN Crane (was actually traded for two other cranes), then if I
could locate the N&W 514908 my little research will be complete.

Thanks to all and looking forward to a trip to Roanoke in little more than
a week.

Kevin Byrd
Chesterfield, VA



On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:42 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Thanks Steve. You provide some interesting updates.
>
> As for the 514908, as I am not totally familiar with the route of the belt
> line, can you provide any other location info ... like near intersection of
> road A and B. I have no plans to trespass on private property but if I can
> view it or take some photos it would be appreciated.
>
> Also I have never heard of the VMT "hump yard". Any more location info
> other than east of Schaffer's. Is it even furthur east of the smaller
> turntable near what looks like a car servicing area. I'm guessing one could
> drive down Shenandoah Avenue and might be able to notice the VGN Crane.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Kevin Byrd
> Chesterfield, VA
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:00 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The N&W 514908 (unrestored unmodified Steam Crane) is still in storage on
>> the west end of the Beltline.
>> To clear up some confusion, in Nov 2017 VMT scraped both the N&W 514902
>> (1919 160ton model) and the N&W 514925 (late steam era 200ton model) from
>> their collections in a trade effort to save the EX-VGN crane that is now
>> stored with the rest of the museum's "off site" items in Roanoke's "Hump"
>> yard just east of Shaffer's Crossing.
>>
>> Steve in Roanoke VA
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>> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:35:20 -0400
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: N&W 120Ton Wreck Crane
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>> VMT had it scrapped? The Va Museum of Transportation? I'd be quit
>> surprised
>> at that.
>>
>> I am pretty sure it also escaped scrapping by the Va. Scrap Iron Yard much
>> like the lost engines that survived. It was only a couple of years ago, I
>> believe it was dragged or lifted onto the belt line track. I have pictures
>> gleaned from a from an on-line posting from somewhere. The article talked
>> about rescuing it. Also had pictures of the crane sitting in the weeds at
>> Va Scrap and later on the Belt Line tracks. See below.
>>
>> [image: N&W 120TonSteam Derrick #514908-1.jpg]
>> [image: N&W_120TonSteamDerrick#514908_RightSide.jpg]
>>
>> The N&WHS MofW roster indicates it was still sitting  on the belt line
>> tracks last summer. See link:
>> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nwhs.org%2Fdata%2Fmow%2Fview.php%3FID%3D1511&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3e87ca86daea4603b04108d6c825cef5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916462049614171&sdata=NKD1VnoLgJpGaGZYcP8%2BR8k4ibLXzCTZvHt33GSq6vo%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> I am just curious where on the belt line. I will be in town for the
>> upcoming convention and planned to do some exploring and if possible take
>> a
>> few pictures. I am modeling the crane using a Tichy kit. It is built but I
>> need to figure out the appropriate lettering for the early 50's. In its
>> current state I am guessing the lettering is post the 50's but not sure. A
>> few pictures wouldn't hurt for my archives.
>>
>> Kevin Byrd
>> Chesterfield, VA
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:07 AM NW Mailing List <
>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am fairly sure that VMT had it scraped
>> >
>> > Larry Evans
>> >
>> >
>> > "There's the sun, there's the moon, there's the air we breathe, and
>> > there's the Rolling Stones"  Keith Richards
>> >
>> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 2:28 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I am wondering if anyone knows the whereabouts of the former N&W steam
>> > powered wreck crane numbered 514908.
>> >
>> > It sat in the Va. Scrap Iron yard for many years until it was saved by
>> the
>> > Va Museum of Transportation back in 2012. It was then placed on the
>> tracks
>> > of the Roanoke Belt Line. It was there at least up until June 2018.
>> >
>> > Is it still on those tracks? Where on the Belt Line? or has it been
>> moved
>> > to another location?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Kevin Byrd
>> > Chesterfield, VA
>> >
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