NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 186, Issue 4

Sat May 2 16:45:31 EDT 2020

I seem to recall that at one time the VGN had a handful of fifty-foot round 
roof boxcars like N&W's B-3.  At the time of the merger they had some 
Pullman-Standard PS-1 forty-foot single door cars.

- Ed King

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Speaking of Boxcars, Did the Virginian have many at the Merger with N&W ?and
what type were they ? Any Pictures ? Ken Tanner (Former Roanoker)

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Bellpaire Boiler (NW Mailing List)
   2. RE: Ringing that Bell (was Re: Brakeman's doghouse)
      (NW Mailing List)
   3. Re: Round Roof Box Cars (NW Mailing List)
   4. Re: Y3 Proto 2000 (NW Mailing List)

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Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 17:21:45 -0400
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To: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: RE: Bellpaire Boiler
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Good info Bruce. Curious. Is an ?Inventory Report? an N&W document? ICC
document? I?m unfamiliar with it.   John Garner

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Subject: Re: Bellpaire Boiler

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:39 PM Peter wrote:

R.P.C. Sanderson claimed that he got tracings of the Bellpaire boiler from a
former classmate of his in Cassel, Germany, where he had attended
engineering school. And it is those tracings that the N&W provided to
Baldwin Locomotive Works and Grant Locomotive Works when they placed orders
with both of those manufacturers.  I believe in 1883, N & W placed (or
received) an order with Grant Locomotive Works of New Jersey (late of
Chicago, Illinois) for five or six [H Class?], 2-8-0 that were numbered
56-60 (61) and an order with Baldwin for [Class M(1st)?] 4-4-0 that were
numbered 95 & 96 (or perhaps 94 & 95).

While it doesn't show boiler details, the October 1, 1896, inventory report
shows engine numbers and builders.

Engine No. Class Type Maker        Date Built   Cost When New

57     H      10-wheel    Grant 4-83  10,600.

58     H      10-wheel    Grant 4-83  10,600.

59     H      10-wheel    Grant 4-83  10,600.

60     H      10-wheel    Grant 4-83  10,600.

61     H      10-wheel    Grant 4-83  10,600.

94     M      8-wheel     Baldwin      3-83  13,152

95     M      8-wheel     Baldwin      3-83  13,152

See  <https://brucebharper.info/nwrwy/rosters/index.php>
https://brucebharper.info/nwrwy/rosters/index.php

Bruce in Blacksburg

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Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 17:53:13 -0400
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Subject: RE: Ringing that Bell (was Re: Brakeman's doghouse)
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I believe the engineer or fireman is ringing the bell. If I?m not mistaken
they could be air actuated (see supply line on top of smoke box) or manually
rung. Both the bell and clapper moved freely. I covet one of these located
at a church near me in as-removed condition.

Very little to go on here but could this be about 1/3 mile east of Singer
Curve eastbound? Beautiful light on the loco and engineer. A postcard shot
that I?d never seen before. Thx for sharing Rick.

John Garner

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Subject: Ringing that Bell (was Re: Brakeman's doghouse)

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:27 PM Rick wrote:

We've probably heard enough about doghouses, but this is one of my
favorites.  The brakeman is out for some air.  An N&W photo.  Y3 2033 blt
Alco Schenectady 1919, scrapped 5-1958. I found it at a show years ago.

Great photo. If one looks closely at the front of the engine, the bell is
not in a normal "hanging down" position -- or what I consider "normal." Was
this really the way it was hung or is there more going on in the photo that
has the engineer ringing the bell? Perhaps that's why the brakeman is
watching the scene ahead.

Bruce in Blacksburg

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Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 14:57:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: Round Roof Box Cars
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Rebuilding of the Class B-1 round roof boxcars, all of which were
originally single door cars, began in 1955 and continued into 1956.  A
group of cars were rebuilt at Roanoke and Portsmouth Shops with single
doors and classified B-1A; additional single door cars were rebuilt at
Roanoke Shops, converted to double door cars, and classified B-1B.

As of 1957, Class B-2, which had the rounded roof and double doors,
remained as originally built.  In 1957 there were still 97 of 100 cars
built in service.

Jim Brewer

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> They were rebuilt with conventional roofs, but I don't remember the dares
> off hand.
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> Jim Nichols
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> On Friday, May 1, 2020, 08:57:52 AM CDT, NW Mailing List <
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> I have a friend that was asking me when the round roof boxcars were
> removed from the roster. I have no idea. Can anyone help with an answer?
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 12:34:57 -0400
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Subject: Re: Y3 Proto 2000
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I have a 2005 with footboard front end, no bridgepipe and 18K rwnswe.  This
is correct for the 2005 which was in yard service at Portsmouth.

I have a 2024 with road pilot, bridgepipe and 18K tender.  This engine
worked the Roanoke-Bluefield local freight and I photographed it a couple of
times at Walton.

I have a 2037 (the first Y-3 I ever saw) with a road pilot, no bridgepipe,
and thanks to a tender swap with the Rev. Jim Nichols, a 16K tender.  I saw
the 2037 working a mine run on the Dry Fork.

Hope this helps . . .

- Ed King

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Subject: Y3 Proto 2000

Re: Proto 2000 Y3.  I checked my two models.  They are both lettered.  2005
has the original Y3 front set up and with foot board pilot.  2024 came with
bridge pipe front end and road pilot.  I remember contacting Life-Like about
buying a road pilot for 2005.  They sent me the part at no charge.
Unfortunately after Walther's acquired Life-Like, they wanted nothing to do
with steam models. So finding a bridge pipe part would not be easy.

Attached is a photo of 2010 in Hagerstown original front end and road pilot.
Photo by Charles Summers.  Charlie worked as a farm hand.  On his weekends
off he would take rail photos with a simple box camera.  Before his death he
gave his negatives to a friend of his.  2010 was one of his better efforts.
Too bad he didn't have a better camera.  I have scanned what there was of
N&W, dating from the late 1930's up to the end of steam on the Shenandoah
Division.

--Rick Morrison

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