Builder Plate Conundrum

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 Apparantly Dad never saw 483, but his notes on that line say "BLW # 28466  Dest 8-26  M  BLW 12 W.F.  7-06"Thanks for your kind comments. Dad's all time N&W steam roster was the definitive work, based on personal sightings and a lot of correspondence with other roster fans. I remember the names of Fisher (of the locomotive and historical society) and R.B.Carneal of Durham, N.C. Dad did not think Carneal always knew what he was talking about. Dad cross referenced the information he got from all sources and made the most logical conclusions. He taught me to make notes on the locomotives and passenger cars I saw. For some odd reason, I lost my notebooks, but I still have Dad's.
Jim Nichols 

    On Monday, February 28, 2022, 08:18:44 AM CST, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at> wrote:  
Jim Nichols
Thanks for sharing your Dad's notes and research.  You have a real treasurer. The Nichols, Lewis and Bixby research gave us some really great history. Your dad was there and it was first hand information.  Not sure who B. E. ? Lewis was or if he worked for the RR. I knew Arthur M. Bixby and was invited to his house with a group of local fans for movies and discussion on his roster.  Not sure who was there perhaps King, Hamilton, Sink, Aker and Plunkett.  Anyway, at that time I wondered why anyone would be interested in that old locomotive history in the late 50's.  Time has has changed my view on this.
Any chance the Nichols papers have any information on the M No. 483.  This is the one that Baldwin shops installed the wrong builders plate.  It got 28464  and should have been 28466. I sure would like to have climbed in the cab to see if it got the wrong top of crown marker. I don't think the builder plate was ever changed. The Baldwin records note the error and where the M plate went.
Jim Blackstock
 On 2/27/2022 11:04 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
 No need for a dynamo between headlight and stack because the drawing shows an oil headlight. But by the time the 256 was done the headlight was electric (and smaller) so it was moved forward to leave room for a dynamo. Checking Dad's notes, he shows the builders  plate on 256 as follows: "DEC. 1890  No 47."  It is the only G he saw with the number out of correct series, but he didn't make and comment about it. He did manage to see a few F's, including the 169, but he did not record any information about its plate. He shows 165 as "NOV. 1887  No 4" and 174 as "MAY 1888  No. 52." 
  Jim Nichols 
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