Huger Re: location

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Sat Feb 8 17:01:51 EST 2025


Jim,

The signal aspects are an unusual combination of Restricting and 
Approach Diverging on both tracks. The pole shadow indicates the train 
is headed north. In the vicinity of Welch, that would narrow the 
location to the eastward signal #3954 at Huger. The S&C pole line on the 
"south" side and the westbound coming out of a right-hand curve both fit.

The Restricting indication would be a grade signal, located in the 
middle of Huger Hill, a 1.10% ruling grade. The Approach Diverging 
indication would be in advance of the control signal and double 
crossover ahead at Big Four.

The photographer is on or just below U.S. Route 52, Elkhorn Creek is 
across and below the tracks, and the road on the other side is still 
visible on Gmaps.

Oddly:
There is no background on the lower arm of the EB Main signal.

I cannot make out the engine number, but if that is the 2060, it was one 
of the few Y3a's with a fishbelly tender up to 1956. A water-bottom 
tender suggests late, but that and running forward downgrade would 
indicate a through run of west coal, not a typical assignment of older 
power. However, if this is in June before the miner's vacation, it was 
all hands on deck and anything was possible.



Regarding your second image?

I don't have a clue.

Grant Carpenter

On 2/7/2025 6:08 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> Couple of photos on Ebay:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/326427887212?_skw=norfolk+western&itmmeta=01JKFST0119XBYAWW28YE5HJG5&hash=item4c009e466c:g:MckAAOSw87lnoBUo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlHdGzLNV3KP1B0MvFnQq%2F01Zs4iBep8KVn%2Fn1%2FcS%2Bn3cMcZC6Iv7ydlV%2BwSRc%2BHMecnJbmHaUOpyTJ4Rcq3X8Z3UcCrnP75rxo4o93OOJsicBQ5UAJrxmfAuHGzoCGC%2BO8pVjcQb1EI7%2B6e75veyEC1E7yeQoQOfdd4QDdghv5wsEW3WO%2Ftr5Hz2xtP%2B5%2BszFGrY2rr41TPHi74qM9TA%2BVLQ52oOo2azC70T29HOlTbPyM5r3Op9XwYbdmlzFJtMgHR9YPuwer6a5t%2Fvopn8QP%2F4kRgEu60vUgeIoj%2B9jNgA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iB6PmbZQ 
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/326427887212?_skw=norfolk+western&itmmeta=01JKFST0119XBYAWW28YE5HJG5&hash=item4c009e466c:g:MckAAOSw87lnoBUo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlHdGzLNV3KP1B0MvFnQq%2F01Zs4iBep8KVn%2Fn1%2FcS%2Bn3cMcZC6Iv7ydlV%2BwSRc%2BHMecnJbmHaUOpyTJ4Rcq3X8Z3UcCrnP75rxo4o93OOJsicBQ5UAJrxmfAuHGzoCGC%2BO8pVjcQb1EI7%2B6e75veyEC1E7yeQoQOfdd4QDdghv5wsEW3WO%2Ftr5Hz2xtP%2B5%2BszFGrY2rr41TPHi74qM9TA%2BVLQ52oOo2azC70T29HOlTbPyM5r3Op9XwYbdmlzFJtMgHR9YPuwer6a5t%2Fvopn8QP%2F4kRgEu60vUgeIoj%2B9jNgA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iB6PmbZQ>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/326427887214?_skw=norfolk+western&itmmeta=01JKFST011T154AFFXBXYJR2QA&hash=item4c009e466e:g:yO0AAOSw~6pnoBTE&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlzbrcpXtNMy7eamPKImLpF6%2BKc%2FSgysH%2BzDgQ%2FiYSTahKfgymDEUC%2B3FckmJ%2Fk7GmpCH5%2FYJxxWin7gi8o3nzKxTTT14hcm4WdXqDPkvW4Nq3IDo8pItKgWkobuneYxy3OpYSEf9Ybc4s275Yh6IWfQc64DujHwi80ara3gECvHSf8HwWcr1BL9iEodRxMptwAn9qSGsKky1VELWACwDAr2DjIK9ZacYpRjrfhmsliL9R0kR1gBY5mu%2FJGkjhbkMWuCHtwylcqtS2fqg%2Ba5iB4hathTOcxo62VJB9D6RnJ%2BQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iB6PmbZQ 
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/326427887214?_skw=norfolk+western&itmmeta=01JKFST011T154AFFXBXYJR2QA&hash=item4c009e466e:g:yO0AAOSw~6pnoBTE&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlzbrcpXtNMy7eamPKImLpF6%2BKc%2FSgysH%2BzDgQ%2FiYSTahKfgymDEUC%2B3FckmJ%2Fk7GmpCH5%2FYJxxWin7gi8o3nzKxTTT14hcm4WdXqDPkvW4Nq3IDo8pItKgWkobuneYxy3OpYSEf9Ybc4s275Yh6IWfQc64DujHwi80ara3gECvHSf8HwWcr1BL9iEodRxMptwAn9qSGsKky1VELWACwDAr2DjIK9ZacYpRjrfhmsliL9R0kR1gBY5mu%2FJGkjhbkMWuCHtwylcqtS2fqg%2Ba5iB4hathTOcxo62VJB9D6RnJ%2BQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iB6PmbZQ>
>
> They are labeled as Welch, but given their bucolic nature they are 
> obviously not in the city proper.  Anybody able to narrow down the 
> location(s) to any finer point?
> Thanks,
> Jim Cochran
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