S1/S1a Whistle Audio (NW Mailing List)
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Fri Mar 14 11:22:32 EDT 2025
Hi,
I asked a few mechanical engineers and they loved the question. They would
only agree it's going to sound different.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_whistle
The steam pressure makes the whistle effectively longer/shorter which
impacts the frequencies it puts out. You can read the list of things in
that link above.
I guess the best idea is to listen to an A/Y and an M. It's different.
Yes there is a short/long bell hooter. It must have been real disappointing
to hear the 1200 when it had the short bell on it. They eventually put the
long bell on all the freight locomotives.
David Baker
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 7:06 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:
> Does lower boiler pressure equal a lower pitched whistle?
> The S1/S1a had a boiler pressure of 220 psi. The M (200psi) seemingly
> sounds different than an A or Y (both 300psi).
>
> For that matter, does the A/Y have a longer single note whistle than the
> smaller engines like S1 and M? I think there was a long bell and short
> bell version of the hooter, right?
>
> Mike Rector
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 2:37 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Switchers didn't blow their whistles very often. No occasion! They did
>> use their bells.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>>
>> On Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 11:00:00 AM CDT, NW Mailing List via
>> NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Photos suggest that N&W replaced the C&O whistles. I believe I've seen a
>> few pix of the C&O 0-8-0s in N&W lettering with their original C&O
>> whistles, but can't locate them at the moment..
>>
>> Dave Stephenson
>> On Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 11:40:04 AM EDT, NW Mailing List <
>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Would the S1 locos have had a C&O whistle when purchased by N&W?
>>
>> Jim Brewer
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:47 AM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>> I went through my analysis of all Link's recordings (published and
>> unpublished) and found no recording that could be identified specifically
>> as an S1/S1a whistle. There were only two remote possibilities (Link Tape
>> E, track 4 and Link Tape AV, track 1) and in both cases there was either a
>> Class A or Y6 nearby. IMO it's fair to say that the 0-8-0's would sound the
>> same as any other N&W freight locomotive. So I agree with John Garner's
>> conclusion.
>>
>> Dave Stephenson
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 10:08:47 AM EDT, NW Mailing List <
>> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> There is audio of S1/S1a's on the Link recordings but no audio of a
>> whistle that I'm aware of (pls correct me if I'm wrong).
>>
>> So the question remains. Any known S1/S1a whistle audio?
>>
>> John Garner
>>
>> ________________________
>>
>> John
>>
>> Link recordings.
>>
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>>
>> > On Mar 12, 2025, at 9:46 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at
>> > nwhs.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know if audio of an S1/S1a whistle exist?
>> >
>> > John Garner
>> > Newport, VA
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