<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>The recent talk of O gauge S1s and T6s prompts an over looked section of my previous comments.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No S1s or S1as have been done in N gauge. Yet proto heritage, now walthers, have done the USRA 0-8-0.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For all intensive purposes the same animal under the skin. Key differences are the smokebox front/headlight arrangement and the tender.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3D printed replacement smoke box fronts and tender shells could get a very respectable S1. If the pre n&w modification to the coal bunker was modelled then that opens up option of selling C-16 conversion parts to C&O modellers... not to mention the VGN SB options...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If feeling adventurous, a replacement chassis to suit the S1a tender could be done to accept all the gubbins from the proto chassis and then the larger tank shell.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All of this would be applicable for HO as for all S1s & S1as have been done by PSC, S1as by PFM and C-16 & SB by W&R they are all hard to find and not wallet friendly.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can pick up HO proto 0-8-0s readily and for not huge money.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">T6s are as signature a N&W loco as S1s, I think N&W had 40 something out of the 50 something produced.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The only HO model has been an ALCO models unit which leaves a lot to be desired from a running quality point of view. A friend of mine had a pair but they were nothing more than ornaments until bachmann brought out their S4s with tsunami sound factory fit. Two were procured, took the bodies off, hacked some chassis away and the ALCO body slid on. Hey presto a decent running T6!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since bachmann introduced their S4 I believe atlas have re-run their S4s with factory loksound so another option.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Atlas changed the game a few years ago with their n Scale S4s factory fit with loksound.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So there are chassis available for 3D printed bodies of Alco T6s in both HO and N gauge.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Less lucrative than the 0-8-0 project but could prove fruitful.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would have to check with my friend who models in O but I have feeling Atlas have done S4s in O too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do have an ALCO T6 and a bachmann S4 to do the same switcheroo but given I have narrowed my modelling period to end in 1956 it doesn't fit and is only there as a something for the future if I run out of steam projects.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would however be in for 0-8-0 project, S1s, S1as, SBs and some C16s for my Dad.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Martin Ford </div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 Jan 2025 22:04, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:'times new roman' , 'new york' , 'times' , serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>The Sunset M would not have been done if it weren't for the Strasburg version. It is what carried the whole run. The Ms are scarce to find and are going for PREMIUM prices. The M2 will not be made</div><div> as it is believed there is not enough support. Kohs purchased the plans for the K1 from the society but decided that 100 models would be hard to attain. Therefore, the project was abandoned. Sunset now has the </div><div>plans for the VGN Electrics, but we have to wait and see if he gets enough orders. The N&W GP9 second run was a hit out of the ballpark thanks to Shellscale's paint chip and Scott sending me the plans</div><div> for corrections on the second run. It is rumored the steam will be abandoned by Sunset as of the cost and lack of orders.</div><div>Stephen Rineair</div><div><br></div><hr><div><b>From: </b>"NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org><br><b>To: </b>"NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 9, 2025 11:44:12 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: O and O<br></div><div><br></div><div><p>Tom,<br>
There were a lot of people that said the O scale N&W "M"
project would not get done. Yet, before Mort Mann's passing, Mort
said that the O scale N&W M would get done...and it DID!
Thanks to Scott Mann for that! <br>
Since then, I have asked Scott for an S1a. Thinking that it made
business sense to do an USRA 0-8-0 that many roads used. Sadly,
Scott says that he won't do any more brass steam locos!<br>
Many here have expressed their desire for a Z1b. I could go
for that, but, I would much rather have a Class K1...or an
S1a...or an unstreamlined K2/K2a! Guess I'll be waiting in the big
Call Office in the sky before any of these happen :(<br>
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<p>Jimmy Lisle<br>
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Hi Michael
<div>Sunset under their 3rd Rail brand produced the M in brass in
O scale (both 2 and 3 rail in 2012/13). I own one. They can be
found on the secondary market occasionally. </div>
<div>By the way the M was only produced do to the interest and
lobbying if the former owner (late Joe Giannovario) of O Scale
Trains and other members of the historical society. It was not
an instant sell out. </div>
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<div>I put in my wish earlier for a class Z steam engine. But what
would make business sense would be a standard combination
station that could sell to either the 2 or 3 rail community. </div>
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<div>Maybe Bill Wade could chime in here. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Tom Lewis</div>
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<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Isn’t
it strange that Sunset has had such success with
various VGN models, and that most calluses of VGN
steam have been produced in O, but never a class M.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Michael
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