<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Frank,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I didn't know VGN extremists were confined to IOGroups...I thought they were everywhere!!! 😀</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Best wishes.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Jim Brewer</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:43 PM NW Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org">nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The 2-10-10-2's were noted for, among other things, having 48" diameter low pressure cylinders; legend has it that those had to be shipped separately from the locomotives as they wouldn't fit in some of the clearances in some of the intermediate roads. Without going to the bookshelf, they had 170,000 pounds tractive effort working in simple. Top speed was comparatively low, consistent with the service they were designed for and the 56" drivers. According to Lloyd Lewis (who literally wrote the book on Virginian locomotives)they were intended for the hill up Clarks gap, but because they, and the other steam locomotives, created such a hazardous condition in the tunnels they were replaced in that service by the electrics. They did serve on the flatter areas on the east end, where they could move monumental coal trains slowly in what has been described as "conveyor like" service. On the IOGroups there is a Virginian list where there are a handful of extremists who can provide more information than any rational person could want.<div><br></div><div>FWIW, only two railroads in this country had 2-10-10-2's. Virginian and Santa Fe. Some of the Virginian's lasted until the 1950's. The Santa Fe's were considered major failures and didn't last long.</div><div><br></div><div>Frank Bongiovanni</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 10:05 AM NW Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org" target="_blank">nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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Thanks Ray: I've not read that account of the 800's, how do the specifications compare to the N&Ws various Y class models during the same time frame?</div>
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<div dir="auto">I was not aware of this large locomotive used by the Virginian to move coal from Elmore across Clark’s Gap from 1919 until the 1940’s and though some would be interested.
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