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So, the VGN had only black hoppers?</div>
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Hello - Did the VGN have reddish-brown hoppers about the same color as the WM hoppers?</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">You have UP locos? 🤢 That's odd.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">So lets repaint our UP locos to all black to include Norfolk and Western on the tenders. Just for spite<br clear="none">
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<div style="direction:ltr">I simply don’t like UP. My least favorite Class 1. I well understand railroad operations and financials. I well understand mergers. I don’t like the damn yellow. It’s hardly a Southeastern railroad. I simply don’t like UP.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">The UP started using Armour Yellow with Harbor Mist Gray in 1940. It became standard on switchers and cabooses in 1947. That is only 85 years. The Santa Fe started using the War bonnet paint scheme in 1937. It was used until
1996, only 59 years. Not every corporation feel the need to re-brand itself with a new logo. </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Their paint scheme is tired and has been around forever. I don't like it. I like BNSF far better. Financially and operationally either would be fine.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Ed, Roger, and others: why? The Norfolk and Western, the railroad for which we are enthusiasts and modelers, has been gone for 43 years. The classic Norfolk and Western, in some views, has been gone since 1964. Some would say their
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<div style="direction:ltr">This may increase this organization's interest in what is going to be another fallen flag. Or the UP Society May embrace them. Let's see what happens.</div>
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