City of St Louis
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    Wed Feb 17 23:40:42 EST 2010
    
    
  
Barry, 
No.  The City of St. Louis was not an N&W train in the 1950s.  In the 1950s, it was a train operated by Union Pacific with cars pooled with Wabash.  After Wabash was merged into N&W in 1964, it became part of N&W passenger operations. 
Jim Brewer 
Glenwood MD 
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Subject: City of St Louis 
Hi 
Am I correct that this service was running in the early 1950's and if so did UP steam ever get onto N&W metals, as far as is known? 
I have a Rivarossi UP Challenger which I have got going and fitted up to work on DCC, which she does very well. I wonder if they would ever have got onto the N&W system?  
Just an idle late night thought! 
Barry Reeves 
Songwriter & Musician 
www.northwestlondonblues.co.uk 
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:05:28 -0500 
Subject: Re: O Scale Passenger Car Decal Question 
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Barry, 
I don't know the exact details but I am researching them right now myself. 
I do know they were used in some type of pool service with Union Pacific and other railroads. 
I remember seeing a dome and another car in Roanoke in the late 60's. 
The car names are Western Lake, National Unity, Western View, Western Sunset, National Homes, Western Scene, and National Colors. 
The car numbers are 202, 203, 1427, 1428, 1419, 1430, 1612, 1613, 1834, 1835, 1836 and 1837. 
I have attached a photo of dome 1613. The cars had 2.5 inch red stripes on the top and 5 inch stripes along the bottom. 
Thanks, 
Richard D. Shell 
In a message dated 2/15/2010 6:53:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: 
Hi 
Can somebody please explain about N & W cars being painted in UP livery. Which, when and why would be appreciated. 
Many thanks 
Barry Reeves 
Songwriter & Musician 
www.northwestlondonblues.co.uk 
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:18:02 -0500 
Subject: Re: O Scale Passenger Car Decal Question 
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org 
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org 
Thanks for your honest input. I didn't know Sam had done the set in O. Sam, if you are listening... Do you still have some? I may have a customer for you! 
I think I will hold off on that set for a while. 
On another note, I am releasing our newest set, HO134, N134 and O134 in about 6 weeks. This set is for the N&W cars that were painted in Union Pacific colors. HO Scale proof is attached. 
Thanks, 
Richard D. Shell 
ShellScale Decals 
In a message dated 2/14/2010 7:59:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: 
Richard: 
I find that this is not the greatest sight to do a product survey. There always seem to be little support for anything unless it's free and O scalars are limited here. 
I believe you need to look at what N&W products are out there for the O scale decals. Little if any! Therefore I would not produce something 
that there is no product to use on. I have some of Sam Putneys O scale passenger car decals and have only used them once on an O Scale 
American Models passenger car about 20 years ago. 
Just an observation.   Stephen Rineair 
I recently introduced our HO and N Scale N&W Passenger Car decal set 
and they have sold very well. My question is, is there a market for 
these in O Scale? I have gotten one request so far to make them in O. 
Just curious if the O Modelers would like to see this set produced. The 
art is complete already and they could be available in as little as six 
weeks. I would estimate the cost to be around $8.99 per set and they 
would do one car. 
Thanks, 
Richard D. Shell 
ShellScale Decals________________________________________ 
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