"Correct" trucks for PM Coaches
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    Mon Sep 30 17:17:18 EDT 2013
    
    
  
Lois:
 
The trucks on the Rivarossi coaches are an attempt at representing a  
41-N-11.  A Rivarossi coach can be used to model a P-3 if you subscribe to  the 
"six foot rule", meaning at any distance from six feet on out, it looks  
acceptable.  They won't hack it for a P-1 or P-2.  They're a bit  closer to a PM 
than a P-3; my guesstimate is that they would pass a "three foot  rule", 
which is why I'm willing to use them in my attempt to represent the  
"original" Powhatan Arrow.  However, to pass my personal "three foot rule"  they have 
to have 41-HR trucks.  
 
I would not nit pick anyone who left the Rivarossi trucks on them.   We're 
in the hobby for fun, and if they look ok to you, that's all that  matters.
 
Best,
 
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2013 8:27:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:
The trucks on my Rivarossi coaches were very close.
Lois J.Ponton
N&W steam historian
Sent from my Galaxy  S®III
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From: NW  Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> 
Date: 09/30/2013 7:04 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org 
Subject: "Correct" trucks  for PM Coaches 
I'm trying to create a passable model of the "original" Powhatan Arrow in  
which the coaches and lounge car were refurbished/modified 1941-era PM  
cars.  The issue I'm running into is that the PMs were built with, and in  this 
service ran with, 41-HR trucks, with "automotive" snubbers and an "early  
style" Hyatt bearing housing.  
 
The 41-HR truck is hard to find in HO.  Walthers has used it,  and it's in 
their catalog, but it's back-ordered with "unknown"  availability.  Also, 
the Walthers truck has rotary snubbers and a  different bearing housing.  
There are a couple of very nice brass  41-HR trucks available, but their pricing 
for a pair of trucks gives big-time  pause, especially when you want six 
cars' worth.  And, they all appear to  use the newer Hyatt bearing housing 
rather than the version on the PMs.
 
Train Station Products advertises a detail set consisting of rotary  
snubbers and Hyatt bearing housings, but Walthers doesn't stock it and I can't  
find a picture anywhere, so I don't know which version Hyatt bearing housings  
are in the set.  The snubbers aren't an issue, because I'd just modify  the 
bearing housings on some Walthers/Rapido/IHC 41-N-11 trucks, all of which  
have automotive (piston) snubbers.
 
I know this is getting pretty deep into "accuracy overkill", because  about 
999 out of 1000 people wouldn't know a 41-HR from a 41-N-11 (used on the  
1949 Arrow and the Budd sleepers) if they walked up and shook hands, but I 
do,  and it matters to me.
 
Has anyone solved this problem?  How?
 
Many thanks in advance,
 
Dave  Phelps
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